One's an active decision and one is forced upon them. They are not the same.
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One’s an active decision
There are not so many quality notebooks without any brand-logos on them.
Also wearing a brand-logo when you have the choice not to, is kinda cringe.
I don't necessarily agree. If a brand makes high quality stuff I'm not gonna avoid them just because they put their logo on their stuff. I have a kickass Adidas backpack from 2014 that is by far my favorite, and I'll be damned if I'm gonna get rid of it just because it has an Adidas logo on it.
I also have perfectly good clothes with various brands on them, and I'm not just gonna throw them away because that's wasteful as hell. I don't go out of my way to buy stuff with brands on them, but that won't stop me from buying something I genuinely like and find to be high quality.
I want to see if I can find a quality Gateway 2000 decal I can stick on my next laptop so nobody touches it.
Most people probably wouldn't even recognize the gateway logo anymore. It would work on me though. My past experience with gateways is entirely negative.
Agreed on both, though if I ever get a personnal macbook (which I'm definitely considering, their silicon is so good), it's definitely gonna involve a sticker
Adblock lol
(If you are still using Adblock, I beg you, switch to ublock origin. Adblock takes money from advertisers to not block their shit.)
Adblock user = noob
I read the comic as referring to adblocking software as opposed to any specific extension. I can't pinpoint what gives me that idea though so who knows
That's weird because it's both the icon of the app, and the exact name.
I don’t run Adblock because I hate brands, I use it because the internet is more invasive by the day.
If one day I go to put on my shirt and another company sewed their logo over the neck hole, well then we’ll have a similar issue.
You go to reach for a coffee and the wrist hole of your sleeve suddenly accordions over your entire hand as an ad unfurls from your shoulder.
I open the toilet seat to have a pee, a three foot flag unfurls from the ceiling, ITS HONDAFEST!
A small corporate social media account emerges from the bowl, screaming relatable phrases it copied from r/memes. ITS GIVING SAVINGS, FAM NO CAP.
My wife enters asking if I'm ok. I reach out for her, too late, she has become a smiling vacant eyed Summer's Eve ad. Not so fresh, I weep.
Honestly, I'm not against ads, I understand that a site with free articles needs to pay the bills somehow. The reason I use ad block is that online ads have become so intrusive that it makes websites unusable, and the way they track you is way over the line. If ads didn't completely destroy the experience of reading a website and were reasonable in the data they collected I probably wouldn't bother with ad block.
Good take
I wouldn't even be against sharing some information so they could give me better ads
I'm not in the market for a new car. I don't need car ads.
But knowing I shop at Something Hardware a lot and they are having a spring black friday sale on the tool I've been eyeing would be nice.
Even still Something Hardware just slapping their logo in an ad is not helpful at all.
If ads were helpful they wouldn't be annoying
The website you’re on gives that information
They don’t need to track for that
Eg. Looking at car reviews, here’s a car ad. Watching the news? Here’s a gun ad
I feel like there's some social commentary here somewhere but it might just be a bit too subtle.
When I just used a browser ad blocker I made a point to unblock sites that I wanted to support and didn't use obnoxious ads. Unfortunately for them I now use a network ad blocker too and it's more of a hassle. One of these days I might make a list of domains to unblock but at the moment I'm more concerned with figuring out how to block YouTube ads at the domain level.
I had a family member like this... They'd go off about how awful capitalism is, and the shit that goes with it (to which I'd generally agree) but have a house full of google home devices, brag about how much they buy on amazon, and simp for the giant megacorp for which they worked a retail job...
It woulda been funny if it wasn't so sad.
Let's never forget that it is ok to criticize a system you're part of.
It sure is. Unfair examples would include:
- yet he buys groceries!
- yet he drives to work!
- yet he is complicit in the slave trade via rare earth metals in his phone!
I did think a house full of smart speakers from the advertising behemoth is a kinda funny example though - what do you think?
I think the problem with capitalism isn’t the cool stuff that has been produced under it, it’s everything else about it. Literally the only reason to forgo buying a MacBook or a Google Home device as some sort of anti-capitalism spite move is to have the upper hand in conversations like this. In reality, you not making those purchases won’t move the needle in any way. If it did, it would be in the negative. Our entire economic system and system of employment relies on making purchases like that. Consumer spending is the economy.
Fundamentally there is no difference between buying an iPhone vs any other phone in terms of its support for capitalism. If anything, an iPhone might be better. Apple actually inspects its factories and at least pays lip service to stopping the most egregious abuses like forced or child labour. That white box Chinese android phone? If anything was built by forced or child labour, it’s that.
So targeting individuals for their purchases is both pointless and counterproductive. If you want to affect change, then vote, protest, organize. Push for and support proper regulation and controls. Make it so that people’s employment isn’t required for them to get healthcare, services, shelter. Make it so that an economic recession impacts those with the most, not those with the least.
Stressing about trying to make the least capitalist choice under a capitalist system just does exactly what they want you to do. The more time you spend judging your neighbour, the less time you spend looking up and see who’s really fucking you.
According to Varoufakis, this is techno feudalism. He wrote a book about it. So arguably, it's not capitalism but by no means is it better than that
Varoufakis is just one of many people who have come up with fancy new terms for capitalism and imperialism. It's not to say that he doesn't have an important perspective on some things, but coming up with new terms for things defined over a century ago only serves to distract.
Fair point.
Though counterpoint: if someone is willing to spend $3000+ on an apple computer and cool swag. The ads already worked.
However, if the Q/A on your product is so bad, that someone who spends $3000+ would rather install an ad-block to get rid of that experience, maybe the quality assurance on those ads or products aren't as good as people think.
i think its just them trying to turn something that works up to 11
internet ads used to be more tolerable for a brief window there, after the popup craze died and before whatever the fuck we have now
Blocking ads is your duty and obligation. It is my honor to make sure every cent these companies spend on it is wasted. Stay Blocking my friends.
i install ublock origin on every computer i can get away with.
I hate buying any clothing with a brand name visible, but for certain types of item like sports clothes it’s almost impossible.
I just want plain coloured t shirts / abstract geometric patterns without annoying words!
I'd rather choose my own poison than having them shoved in my face with auto play audio when I'm looking for porns. Thank you.
Ha! I finally have the right place to brag about my anti logo wearing lifestyle!
Regardless of anti-corporatism sentiments, it's just good fashion sense anyway.
Maybe I can grift a nice bounty developing AR glasses which patch out all the brands on clothes and places in real-time.
Don't forget to put a brand logo on them so that others can easily see it.
I wouldn’t have a problem with adverts if there was a guarantee of no malware, no phishing, no scams.
They cry about not being able to serve ads while serving ads that are straight malware and scams. It’s especially funny when a platform goes out of their way to censor (suppress ad revenue) on videos which have even a chance of being misinformation and then proceed to play back to back ads of somebody selling their get rich quick webinar.
On YouTube, AI Musk has been telling me every other day about some amazing get rich quick scheme. I report it and days later YouTube emails me saying “Our investigation concluded that this is not a scam or spam”. As if.
Also if they were just less intrusive, a little static banner ad is fine
Change that to a hat with a stage musical logo, and a metal band shirt, and this is me.
But when it comes to clothes, I can choose which ads I serve :)
If that dude’s outfit was animated and played noise, and the guy jumped in front of whatever I was looking at and wouldn’t go away, and sometimes he put random shit in my pockets or got me sick, then I’d hate that guy just as much as internet ads
If I was paid to wear a logo then sure but to spend money on a shirt of a logo seems weird to me.
I laughed at the meme, but I also bought branded merch from a brewery whose beer I don't even drink (unless I'm already drunk) because I was in their gift shop.
Are those eclipse glasses?