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[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 136 points 7 months ago (1 children)

One's an active decision and one is forced upon them. They are not the same.

[–] bort@sopuli.xyz 30 points 7 months ago (3 children)

One’s an active decision

There are not so many quality notebooks without any brand-logos on them.

Also wearing a brand-logo when you have the choice not to, is kinda cringe.

[–] JDubbleu@programming.dev 10 points 7 months ago

I don't necessarily agree. If a brand makes high quality stuff I'm not gonna avoid them just because they put their logo on their stuff. I have a kickass Adidas backpack from 2014 that is by far my favorite, and I'll be damned if I'm gonna get rid of it just because it has an Adidas logo on it.

I also have perfectly good clothes with various brands on them, and I'm not just gonna throw them away because that's wasteful as hell. I don't go out of my way to buy stuff with brands on them, but that won't stop me from buying something I genuinely like and find to be high quality.

[–] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I want to see if I can find a quality Gateway 2000 decal I can stick on my next laptop so nobody touches it.

[–] PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Most people probably wouldn't even recognize the gateway logo anymore. It would work on me though. My past experience with gateways is entirely negative.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

Man, gateway sucked, but I had one great experience with them. They got me laid in an incredible way, so that logo is dear to me.

[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Agreed on both, though if I ever get a personnal macbook (which I'm definitely considering, their silicon is so good), it's definitely gonna involve a sticker

[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Seriously. Do people avoid buying Macbooks just because there's a logo on the back? They make good hardware.

[–] SeekPie@lemm.ee 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

But they're overpriced and have made many anti-consumer choices and as a consequence have made other platforms worse, because many other companies like to follow Apple.

[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I agree the hardware upgrades are obscenely expensive, but the base model pro's are hard to beat for the price, depending on what you are looking for.

[–] PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago (5 children)

"hard to beat for the price" hahaha

[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I spent a little bit of time looking for true alternatives to a MacBook that would fit my needs, but there really aren't any. Once you check out laptops with 16+ hour of battery life, then add a bright, HDR, color-accurate display, then add the performance of the M-series chips (which are not THE best, but certainly close to the best options from AMD and Intel), and decent speakers, there really isn't anything to compete.

A base 14" M3 Pro is around $1750, which isn't that far out of line for high-performing laptops in general. If someone needs something cheaper, they can get a used 14" M1 Pro for around $900-$1k. Also, if you're someone that already owns an iPhone, it's kind of hard to even see why you would go with something else unless you are required to use Windows applications or want to play a bunch of AAA games.

I'm beginning to think that people that diss MacBooks are just people that never owned them.

For people that are really struggling financially, but still want the above features, the 2020 13" M1 Air w/16GB RAM and 256GB storage can be found for about $500.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Mine was free!

I was an Apple employee, though... And they'd bin it and give me a new one every 24 months because upgrading's not an option. Wouldn't even wipe them and hand them/sell them to employees.

All the actual workhorse machines were Lenovo. If you worked with external clients, you'd get a Surface Pro so they didn't have to work around your incompatibilities with their software, systems, and enterprise environments.

Also used to use an old Pentium 4 we found as a team server because multi-threading and 64-bit wasn't available for some MS Enterprise applications in macOS then, but 365 and applications like Power BI is obviously what Apple runs on. This ancient box had a 4:3 monitor and an IBM logo on it, so it was made some time before 2005. But 64-bit CPU and no macOS, so it crunched calculations faster than the 6-core i7 in the MBPs. The day we could finally use all cores and 64-bit on the macOS systems was amazing, but we still kept the old IBM box around to monitor and log connections. I like to think my old friend is still kicking on...

Find another well build machine in a similar form factor that performs similarly, and gets even comparable battery life. Raw benchmarking performance isn’t the only value to a laptop.

The dell xps 13+ maybe? But that’s 13th Gen. intel and battery life is pretty awful.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

But its all chained to shit rabidly anti consumer borderline soyware proprietary ecosystem software, so it's basically trash.

Also, they've been making some really fucking stupid design decisions. Fucking camera in the middle of my fucking screen? Kill yourself, I'd rather just not have it.