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[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Guns are the only reliable way to deal with tyrants. And while its not everytime, look at what happens to disarmed populations usually.

Also gun control started as and still is racist.

[–] Draghetta@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You had a tyrant that tried to overthrow a legitimate election through violence.

Where were all gun nuts then? Those who weren’t attempting said coup, that is. Doesn’t sound reliable to me.

As for what happens to disarmed populations, most of Europe has gun control laws that would make any American have a heart attack, and yet here we are, no dictators to be seen up to GMT+3. Do say, what is it that happens to disarmed populations? What is happening to us that I somehow didn’t notice?

And gun control being racist.. I’m sorry, what? This right here, this is the thing I’ll never understand about Americans. Everything is racist. You can’t talk about anything, somebody will play the “racist” card before you can get any deeper than slogans. Absolutely every single thing turns out to be a race issue. Sure, you guys had very big issues with racism until very recently (learning about sundown towns for me was a huge WTF moment) and it’s very hard to deal with a past so ugly - but still, maybe not everything is about race.

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

In America, gun control started as a way to disarm black people. Worked out well when the Klan wanted to lynch someone. Thats what was racist about it.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A modern analog I like is to high grade digital encryption.

Terrorists and criminals use it, and governments want to ban it. But that doesn't actually mean it should be banned, or that people who oppose a ban are terrorists or criminals.

[–] Draghetta@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Totally, except regulating encryption makes much more sense because of al those encryption-violence deaths that happen daily in the US. All those kids with easy access to encryption going to school and encrypting their classmates, the policemen not intervening because they are afraid to get encrypted by the kids armed with military grade AES-512 routines.

It is a modern analog, but with its limits - all this stuff doesn’t happen in countries where encryption is much more regulated and you can’t buy encryption routines in malls.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Your comment comes off as shallow and dismissive. I'd be happy to discuss this further, but not under those conditions.

[–] XEAL@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but it's way harder to kill someone accidentally (or in a fit of rage) with high grade digital encryption than with a firearm.

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Keeping your gun accessible when driving your car. Needing or wanting to open carry when you go shopping. Needing to pose with your family all holding powerful guns for a Christmas photo. I don’t get it.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Most of America doesn't do it, just the people who are afraid of violence - which also happens to the same people who would quickly resort to violence. At this point, seeing a person wearing a gun is the same as seeing warning colors on other species like insects. If you see it, turn and go the other way. There is literally nothing worth the inconvenience of dealing with those people. (And hospitals don't allow open carry so matters of life and death can be attend to without worry.)