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Buttigieg is one of the best politicians America has right now.
Him growing a beard is a completely different thing from known bitch Ted Cruz growing one.
I mean, that's a really low bar. I like Pete, and I would certainly vote for him instead of just about anyone in any position of government. But I do think our standards have been lowered to the point where "not a nazi shitbag" is going to put him in the upper echelon.
I agree, but in many places lesser evil is the best we can do. I think if one lives in a red state then we need to vote as much as we can to minimize harm. If we live in a blue state we need to vote for the most progressive dem in primaries to start the shift away from corporate dems. In pretty much every election from the last 30 years non voting has been the biggest voter block.
Protesting is important too, but we need to follow up the energy and vote as well. Otherwise we are saying that we care a lot about something, but not enough to go all the way with our complaint.
I'm with you completely, I'm just feeling grumpy today.
Fair enough
Pete isnt a low standard. Hes would be a good candidate in pretty much any country.
So was Obama, who led us directly to Trump. At some point, Democrats have to actually stand for something more than mere competence and being the lesser evil.
You act like biden had no policy but stood on many issues. Even if we just look at the policy he passed he stood for a lot. If we expand to the policy he tried to pass he stood for even more.
He had real solutions to the problems, they were boring and bureaucratic but thats whats required. Putting a freeze on rent isnt going to fix house prices or cost of living. Only investment will fix that.
This motherfucker can fuck off. He helped the DNC crush Bernie Sanders run in 2020. Also he is a fucking neoliberal who steals titles now.
Add that he enabled the Biden disaster to the list. He was supposedly his mock debate partner and didn't raise any red flags about Biden's mental health. Seriously, fuck that guy.
Bidens mental health was never the issue. Its why right wingers switched to a new attack as soon as Harris was put in and havent mentioned a single thing about trumps mental health which is arguable worse than biden ever was.
harris was a curveball and they couldnt compensate quickly enough, but harris misstep was tamping down her rhetoric, and now trying elicit hispanic and aa voters.
Also, her interview answer about not doing anything different from the Biden administration was political malpractice of the first order.
The fact that she seemed completely caught off guard for what was possibly the most obvious question definitely didn't help. Of all questions to not prepare for...
Sure, if you want to rewrite history that could be true. Everyone was fearful of Biden's mental health because they kept him out of the public. Then, when he did the debate, he confirmed everyone's fears. It wasn't that long ago, how have you already forgotten?
like all neoliberals in the Dem establishment, Butti will always do what the corporations tell him. don’t fall for it, we need to demand better.
And a politician he is, willing to be bought in exchange for political capital.
Stealing from my comment in a different thread:
If Sanders and AOC aren't the future of the Democratic Party, then the Republicans are just going to keep winning. Neolibs simply aren't popular. They aren't far enough to the left for the leftists, and they aren't far enough to the right for the conservatives.
If "best" means technically proficient, then sure. He does the politician thing better than any other establishment Democrats I can think of. If "best" means good for the country, then I have some notes. Obama was the same kind of character, and Trump was the result. I'm not sure I want to go down the highly charismatic Wall Street bitch route again.
It's sad when a McKinsey ghoul is one of our best choices right now.
I thought that in the beginning, but he sold out to the insurance companies pretty quickly. I was pretty bummed about it. Notice he took the transportation gig when he was working for Biden.
One of the best? He didn't even support Medicare for all. He's just another pathetic neolib.
You’re both correct and that’s what really sucks
That's not true! He supported Medicare for all!*
^*who ^want ^it.
Well that might be the single grimmest condemnation of the state of American politics I've seen
Care to explain or are you just a bridge troll?
Guy is incredibly intelligent. Calm. Collected. Fair. He easily handles Fox News pundits while trying to explain things in a way even Fox viewers can understand. Served in the military. Became a mayor before getting into national politics. Got pretty far into the primary process.
I'll wait for your response.
We can't be friends with a take like that. I'll never forgive how he treated Bernie.
Well that's upsetting.
At failing upwards.
He's just your typical charismatic Centrist who can deliver some catchy sound bites for the billionaire-owned media to obsess about, but has no legislative experience beyond being the mayor of a small town in Indiana, which he apparently wasn't even that good at.
When it comes to authenticity, he's almost exactly on par with Ted "100% Human Candidate" Cruz