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It looks like they're speedrunning to the finish line to get things over with as quickly as possible.

Since nothing is going to stand in their way, how can we make sure they are held accountable for generations to come?

Maybe we can have a day of remembrance for the Palestinians.

I'm afraid that once Israel has completed their genocide, the media cycle and influencers will ensure its never spoken about again.

How do we keep it fresh in people's minds until the perpetrators and/or their offspring face justice?

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm not expecting zombie Nasser, but they're stretched just fighting Lebanon and Gaza. I can't rule out that they might nuke everyone else and rule the resulting wasteland (and then, yes, no ICJ trials), but I'm not sure it'd be that easy, either. And, they might have blown up some centrifuges, but the possibility of another nuclear player in the region isn't gone.

Either way, the result isn't the Middle East we know now. Even without removing the US from the equation, I'm not expecting the status quo to last.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

My point isn't that they'd glass the Middle East, my point is that the threat of even small-scale nuclear warfare is enough to ensure that Israel might be pushed back from imperialist projects, but never existentially threatened without massive internal disorder.

I would argue that the Levant is the least likely region of the Middle East to change with the coming decline in oil.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

I would argue that the Levant is the least likely region of the Middle East to change with the coming decline in oil.

Yes, I think that's kind of obvious. I don't know if they produce oil at all. Uhh... doesn't look like it. It's all geographically connected, though.

Do you think internal disorder is unlikely? There's broad disinterest in helping the Palestinians in any way, but Israeli society disagrees about nearly everything else.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

Do you think internal disorder is unlikely? There’s broad disinterest in helping the Palestinians in any way, but Israeli society disagrees about nearly everything else.

I think disagreements in Israeli society are relatively weak insofar as they all adhere to a common vision of Israel as a Jewish apartheid state. As long as there's that to unite them - and make no mistake, at BEST 37/120 Knesset seats are held by non-Zionist parties, and more realistically, 14/120 - any crisis will bring together Israeli society in defense of that core existential concern.

Political disputes will continue, to very strong degrees. But there isn't going to be some mass defection from the core existential idea of Israel or Israeli sovereignty, including over its hypermilitarized state.