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This coming from the company that is probably near the bottom in terms of electrification progression. No one should believe anything Toyota (or anyone else) says until they actually release the product. Right now Toyota's only full electric vehicle is the abysmal Bz4X and its Lexus cousin. The Japamese car makers are laughably behind the rest of the industry.
Toyota is the first company to figure out how to make commercially viable solid state batteries... they are trying to pivot now that they are the first to figure it out but plan to release with their 26/27 line.
This is a major change for the entire world and you guys are snickering about how behind they are... just say you dont know anything.
Yeah, and where are they? Talk is cheap. Show me a shipping product with these solid state batteries.
Lots of companies claim lots of things and rarely do they ever deliver fully. The proof right now is in the pudding and as of today, the only full EV offering they are selling is hot garbage.
Show you a product that has these???? Nobody on planet earth has these yet... you are just assuming because they dont have it yet that they wont. I dont work for Toyota but i know it takes a long time to pivot manufacturing. The BZ and NZ are their first foray into the EV market chill out.
https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2023/06/Toyota-EV-battery-tech-3.jpeg?resize=1024,248
Yeah, that's the whole damn point! Until they are shipping actual product it is all just smoke and mirrors.
Who knew there were so many clueless Toyota fanboys on Lemmy?! lol
Ignorance must be bliss amirite? Ill smash that like button and give you 10 thumbs up 👍
Costs too much. Range is atrocious. Charge speed is shit. Interior is just god awful, and the exterior is hideous.
You can "trust" them all you want, I guess.
A corolla isn't as prestigious as an Audi, it doesn't have as many features for the price as a Kia would have, it isn't as fast as a BMW or as luxurious as a Mercedes.
After 10-15 years all those other cars will be off the road, most likely due to needing repairs that cost more than the vehicle is worth. The corolla will still be as boring and plain and dependable as it was when it rolled out of the factory.
I loudly bemoaned Toyota's glacial development of BEV products, but I presume that they ultimately made the right call to release a good vehicle late to market rather than rush to market with a vehicle that would tarnish their reputation for reliability.
I'm happy to wait for a Toyota EV that costs more and has lower "performance " figures than a Korean or American equivalent.
Just because they didn't take the tesla route of claiming 500miles but only deliver half of ut in the real world? They set on hybrids, which you know, has batteries and electric motors as well. Then they use that knowlege to make an EV that isn't just shit.