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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They would be horrified at how bad it's got and they'd start figuring out how the bourgeoisie managed so well to subdue the working classes.

Then they'd tell us they're not mad at us, just disappointed.

Then we'd get drunk and I'd help teach them the wonders of the internet, and they'd be far more disappointed in us, because we have literally uncensorable global communications and could actually organise almost the entire planet if there really was the will.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

They would be horrified at how bad it's got

I'm curious what you think factory working conditions were like in 1924.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Societal apathy and low wages snd poor rights, were what I wss thinking about.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm not mad, but disappointed. Remember how history is all about the proletariat being a sucker for the bourgoisie. We were promised heaven in the afterlife for the whole middle ages.

In the new world an honest day's work for an honest day's pay was the American dream.

Then the California gold rush promised us we could get rich quick with luck and pluck.

By the great depression (about a century ago) what we noticed was this is how the industrialists like it and they resented FDR's New Deal. (A lot of us were thinking that whatever Lenin was doing in USSR was better than the cardboard + paint can shelters we were living in and eating flour paste.) It was a stopgap to let capitalism have another chance. One it didn't deserve.

So when they'd see our homeless crisis and fast food swamps, they'd nod, knowingly. We should have socialized then.

The GOP thought it had the upper hand when it pushed Reagan in and started killing unions and rolling back regulations. Reagan won with a landslide due to the Moral Majority, hopped up on anti-abortion rhetoric. It taught campaign managers the public could be manipulated.

Then George W. Bush took the White House with a procedural couo d'etat. Then Trump showed us the only way the GOP can win is by shennanigans.

It's harder for the masses to organize. But there are more of us than them by orders of magnitude. When we see the police killing the public, more people move from bystander to sympathist, from sympathist to activist. From activist to rebel.

This isn't our first rodeo. And our ancestors would recognize the same dirty tricks used to keep them from a new revolution have gotten better. But then insurgency tricks are better as well.

Harris is at that precipice moment when she has to get more radical than FDR to hold society together. Because we know Trump and company are the baddies. We know we can justly resort to violence against a Trump administration because they've already declared the public illegal.