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I'd like to start a series seeking viewpoints from across the political spectrum in general discussions about modern society and where everyone stands on what is not working, what is working, and where we see things going in the future.

Please answer in good-faith and if you don't consider yourself conservative or "to the right", please reserve top-level discussion for those folks so it reaches the "right" folks haha.

Please don't downvote respectful content that is merely contrary to your political sensibillities, lets have actual discourse and learn more about each other and our respective viewpoints.

Will be doing other sides soon but lets start with this and see where it takes us.

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[–] Paragone@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Multiple conflicting definitions for "Conservative", for 1 thing..

WHEN you tolerate the:

  • moneyarchists
  • legalists
  • class-position worshippers / monarchists
  • authority-worshippers

to claim that they define conservatism,

& us who're committed to conserving

  • G-D given LivingValidity
  • G-D given LivingWorth
  • G-D given LivingPotential
  • G-D offered LivingOpportunity

.. people are therefore defined to be not "conservative"..

then the framing has been highjacked.

Integrity-conservatives are conservatives.

LivingPotential conservatives are conservatives, who're interested in competent education for all, instead of accommodating the obliteration of LivingPotential through shit "education"..

LivingOpportunity conservatives are conservatives, who want wastefulness-of-LivingOpportunity to be eradicated, so that we can be inhabiting it, instead of allowint it to be eradicated/wasted..

etc.

I'd begin with the correct qualification of the version of "conservative" that a person is claiming.

Corrupt privilege-conservatives ought be called such, & not let get-away-with claiming that the're the rightful definers of "conservative".

This should go for all "conservative" & "liberal" identifications:

Let people claim whatever variant they want, and then enforce accountability through matching their actual-behavior against their claims, with indestructible public accountability.

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[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Theres no set conservative meaning. At this point, its anyone who disagrees with the left. Trying to make it into one big group is almost futile.

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"Conservative", "right", "left", are meaningless, political relevative terms we should stop using. Instead, we should just describe our values on a select major view points, including power, economy, and social structure.

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

While I agree and disagree with you, I don't think the terms will stop being used anytime soon.

People like putting themselves into groups based on shared ideas and values. While the terms still allow people to do that, they will be used.