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He touches on my major issue with all these companies, data mining without compensating the people that created that data. I have to pay for the operating system, get served ads, AND you get to make extra money off my information too? This kind of shenanigans would be tolerable with a free OS, or maybe one that compensated you like brave browser. The blatant fleecing of the consumer here is sickening. I’m glad data mining your screenshots is the last straw for people.
I've been screaming about this since I found out Re:CAPTCHA was using us to train AI. We should definitely be compensated.
Let me be the Devil's advocate here.
You/we (as users) are being compensated by being permitted onto whatever service is being gatekept by Recaptcha. We profit further by having that service not be completely tainted by bots. Sure, recaptcha ain't even close to perfect and can be easily bypassed, but any barrier of entry is better than none at all.
Google profits by getting free training for their models.
And the service provider profits by saving on bandwidth, moderation etc., which in turn benefits the users too in the form of a less degraded service.
There are many things to dislike about Google and what they are doing to the web. Recaptcha should not even be in your top 100.
That's a huge chunk of the internet you're filtering there, including plenty of legitimate sites. Care to explain why you dislike Recaptcha in particular that much?
the thing about Recaptcha is that it didn’t always gate keep a google provided service, so that logic doesn’t really work. i agree though that we all benefit from less bots.
Too bad he didn't touch the real issue with Linux for most people: lack of their industry favorite proprietary software.
If Linux suddenly started gaining traction on a bigger scale, Microsoft would make a user-facing proprietary distro and those bastards would still flock to it.
You clearly are just talking because you have a mouth. Proton/Wine has just reached 15k game playable. And they are currently porting around 1000 games per month. https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/05/steam-deck-hits-15000-games-rated-playable-and-verified/
What games? Games with Anti-cheat WORK, its the companies that dont allow players to play them on Linux.
I've been toying with the idea of getting back into Linux for a while now. While I'm still on W10 I'm not rushing, and haven't installed a TPM Module so Windows doesn't force W11 on me yet, but when I have no choice that may push my hand. There's some stuff I find easier on Windows but Linux has really caught up in the past 20 years and I reckon I could daily it in the coming years.
Most likely yeah :D After all even the other community got burned by CentOS and decided to move to Ubuntu in mass instead of picking a true open-source distro...
Since when is Ubuntu not open source?
It is, but it's also made by the same company that from time to time likes to add spyware into things... or fork open-source projects and change licenses just because they felt like it. Using Ubuntu on a professional environment has the same risks that using CentOS had, we never know when someone at Canonical will change the license and fuck everyone over.
Well, it's stayed open source for 20 years now.
unless youre using Photoshop or Adobe as a senior youre just barking at a tree. Several of those software can be used on linux through Wine or they have a professional direct app. Krita/Gimp/Inkspace, KDEnLive/DavinciResolve, LibreOffice, etc.
That's the point. The problem is that it doesn't require the user to be senior to run into issues, it just requires them to be a professional user who has to collaborate within an industry that is standardized around some specific propriety software and people expect formats from that specific software.
You know its not only Adobe apps... it's Autodesk, MS Office (because advanced features aren't available on the web version), Circuit Design Suite (Multisim and Ultiboard) and every other field specific application that isn't available under Linux or that has alternatives that while viable for an amateur user won't just cut it if you spend 8h/day within those applications and you're expected to collaborate with others who also do it.
I'm not saying they don't, I'm just saying there's a LOT of people who would love to move to Linux full time but they can't do to the lack of field-specific software and/or poor results when it comes to Wine or generic virtualization.
I wish I could switch to Inkscape, but it's not there yet.
It is really good lately and only getting better, but there are 2 major issues I have with Inkscape.
Tabs (as in, tabulation, the \t character) in text objects. You can find workarounds, like splitting your text into multiple objects and aligning them on your canvas, but it's just not as good as being able to align your text using proper text alignment tools. Tabulation doesn't work in Inkscape because it's not in SVG spec, AFAIK.
Object styles. Again, there are workarounds, but they're not as good. Can you create a text style called "numbering", use it to number a lot of stuff in your document, then just change font family (or make it italic, or bold) all of the numbers at once by changing the "numbering" style? I don't think it's currently possible. Sure, inkscape is not a word processor. But can you make an object of style "banner" with a blue gradient fill, orange 2 px stroke and 50% transparency, use it multiple times, then when you need to change from blue gradient to red gradient just change the "banner" style? Again, there are ways to achieve this, but if you do this kind of stuff, inkscape is just not ready to replace your tools.
Don't get me wrong, I really want to switch to FOSS all the way and wait for these things to get implemented. As soon as they're there, I'll be the first to make the switch. But it's not now, unfortunately.
If I'm wrong, I'll be happy to stand corrected.
Pretty sure there also are 2 features Inkscape/Krita have, that Photoshop doesnt. You know how ridiculous that sounds? Report/request those features, otherwise itll never happen for you.
Most of this stuff works with compatibility programs like wine if you really need a windows app
That's the keyword "most". Someone who spends 8h/day inside an app (or group of apps) wants it to work 100% of the time at the maximum performance / with the least amount of small glitches, delays and annoyances.
I'm not ok with data mining under literally any circumstances. There are some things which just shouldn't be done.