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Fox News reported on some new presidential rankings, which purportedly show Barack Obama as the #6 president in U.S. history and Donald Trump dead last, and MAGA was not happy.

Fox News on Sunday posted an article about the new rankings by the Presidential Greatness Project, which Fox describes as "a group of self-styled experts." It states that Abraham "Lincoln topped the list of presidents in the 2024 Presidential Greatness Project expert survey for the third time, following his top spot in the rankings in the 2015 and 2018 versions of the survey."

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"Rounding out the top five in the rankings were Franklin Delano Roosevelt at number two, George Washington at three, Theodore Roosevelt at four, and Thomas Jefferson at five," according to the report. "Trump was ranked in last place in the survey, being ranked worse than James Buchanan at 44, Andrew Johnson at 43, Franklin Pierce at 42, and William Henry Harrison at 41."

The report states that Obama and Joe Biden "ranked an average of 6th and 13th, respectively, among Democrat respondents, and 15th and 30th by Republicans."

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[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago (12 children)

Trump sucks but Benedict Arnold sucked so much his name became synonymous with traitor.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 52 points 9 months ago
[–] frezik@midwest.social 17 points 9 months ago

The Revolution managed to succeed anyway. We're still not sure our democracy (flawed as it is) can survive Trump.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

Benedict Arnold got in a position to be traitor by being a war hero. Even as a traitor , he followed his conscience.

Trump got in his position by being a real estate grifter, playing shell games with New York City real estate, hiding income to take multiple properties through bankruptcy while having a positive income, not paying contractors and employees, etc. Out of vanity he paid to host his own “reality” show then somehow stumbled into connecting with half the population through outrage and misdirection who nevertheless elected him president. Somehow this narcissistic incompetent bombastic sleazy salesman commanded enough popular support for the Republican Party to worship at his feet, be afraid to contradict his words. Somehow this treasonous buffoon spouts sexist garbage worse than what got Clinton impeached but that’s ok, supports our Cold War enemy and current yet people are ok with it, reduces government services while enriching himself and his family, incites an attempt to circumvent the election but people still want to choose him, actually says he will act as a dictator yet there’s still support, damaged the ability of our government to function but that’s cool, started trade wars out of spite or impulse yet no one objects, then there’s the matter of hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths by contradicting his own public health advisors on how to handle an epidemic

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago (4 children)

So eventually I can expect there to be a kickass way to cook eggs named after Trump?

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 29 points 9 months ago (5 children)

If you serve me something trump-style, I will assume it is overpriced, poorly made, and possibly not even food.

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The irony is that 'trump' used to mean overcoming, or offering something better than the previous offer. Originated from the word 'triumph'. The common term was 'trump card', but it's also a verb. In all cases, it was a positive idea.

Now I can't even bring myself to use it during card games.

[–] kablammy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

In the UK, 'trump' means fart.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago

And that you didn't pay whoever made them.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago
[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 3 points 9 months ago

And made by someone that isn't going to get paid.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 months ago

Don't forget the side of hair

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Nah, it's gonna be Steak Trump, which is just any steak with McDonald's ketchup on it.

[–] kittyjynx@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I took to calling a well done steak with ketchup "Presidential".

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well done steak is understandable for older folks raised in a tiny town. My mom eats it well done because they didn't even have fridges. Better make sure it's well cooked so you don't get sick. Some people cook it beyond well done where it's getting into charcoal territory, that plus ketchup is what I call ala trump.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This doesn't describe me but I prefer my steaks well done. The thing is, it's harder to do a well done steak right than most other levels of done-ness because there's less leeway (basically there's a wide spread where something is medium rare, but a fine line between well done and shoe leather). Usually the trick is to stop cooking it shortly before you think it's actually done and then let it rest covered to finish from the residual heat.

The ketchup thing is just gross though. Mix a bit of red wine, worcestershire, soy sauce, garlic, onion and store-bought steak sauce and cook it a bit to let the wine reduce, let everything mix and thicken it a bit.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Nah it would be one of the souls of the thousands of unsold sneakers with ketchup on it.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago
[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago

Trump Eggs : rotten to the yolk.

(And small. Very small.)

[–] PeckerBrown@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

If by 'kickass' you mean 'shirred in shit', yeah.

[–] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

think of it this way. noone outside America knows who that is.

everyone knows who Trump is

[–] CustodialTeapot@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

modern day media has a big impact on that, also you being part of that history.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Imagining: the British have a statue to Benedict Arnold with the inscription "loyal" on it that they throw a towel over every time American tourists walk by while innocently whistling

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Im not sure he's going to be alone in that category much longer

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't he actually very patriotic? He just hated the French that bad.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 3 points 9 months ago

The guys who won the Revolution for us?

Sounds like his "patriotism" was British.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago
[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Says the person not currently haunted by the spirit of Benedict Arnold's leg.

[–] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Benedict Donald sounds right

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Sure, he was a traitor for a period, and did some pretty horrible things during that time (such as the invasion of Quebec) but he did end up restoring his original loyalties eventually.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Go read about Benedict Arnold. He was actually kind of a hero iirc that fucked up.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

He lost almost all his battles, picked a fight with every fellow officer around him, and committed treason because they wouldn't let him openly be a war profiteer, everyone else having the good sense to hide their corruption. His naked ambition, greed, and open jealousy are simple historical fact.

There's a fair enough point that losing battles and winning the war is just how the Revolution was, so he might well deserve more credit for military competence than his record implies, but Arnold did more than "make a mistake" by trying to sell West Point to the British.

Also, just fyi:

After defecting to the British he burned the city of New London to the ground and executed the garrison of Fort Grinswold after they surrendered.