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[–] MrCookieRespect@reddthat.com 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And all Chinese ones are propaganda Mashines.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 points 11 months ago

Kind of yeah. There's a whole conversation about how the Chinese government was at one point hamstringing all Chinese AI development by trying to punish researchers (with for-real, Chinese-prison punishment) if their models ever say anything politically suspect. I don't know if that's still going on, but past and present it is asinine and counterproductive to a degree that's honestly a little hard to believe. At the same time, China's command economy has the ability to muster resources towards a priority like AI development in a way that simply doesn't happen in the West, so I could easily believe that there are good things coming out that people here are unaware of. So it'd be good to learn about these things; I wish this article was reporting some of the substance of them so we could.

[–] Lugh 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Saying all Chinese language media is propaganda just seems like a conspiracy theory.

[–] MrCookieRespect@reddthat.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But it isn't. Its literally written in Chinese law.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think it's literally mandated to be propaganda for the CCP, but it's definitely illegal to write anything against them, which is a little bit of a false distinction if you look at it for long enough.

Interestingly enough, I tried to find the story I remember of the Chinese AI researcher who actually did get punished because his model said something about Chairman Mao, and I can't find it now. The more recent stories I found made it sound like they're taking a lot more sensible tack now (although still a state-mandated-oppression friendly one; it's just not wildly illogical and counterproductive like it used to be according to this):

https://www.technologyreview.com/2024/01/17/1086704/china-ai-regulation-changes-2024/

https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/10/18/1081846/generative-ai-safety-censorship-china/

[–] MrCookieRespect@reddthat.com 0 points 11 months ago

If your llm isn't against china it's either not working, ethically questionable or made for propaganda