GoodGuyWithACat

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[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 12 points 11 hours ago

The much studied economic cycle of "so over-so back"

[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 19 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Hunger? Like when no have burger?

[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 25 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Parenti always relevant.

They do it open too lol. Davos is literally for economic coordination.

[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 14 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Porque no los dos

[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 23 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think we disagree with each other at all, comrade. I was not suggesting that this is some master stroke by the Illuminati meant to permanently entrench American empires. What I meant to explain is that they know they are crashing the global economy with their tariffs, that their reasons behind the scenes are not the justifications they give to their constituents.

Of course the contradictions of capitalism sew the seeds of their own destruction, this is the natural result of the financial turn of the 80s/90s. This is the logical extension of their playbook since the fall of the USSR: destroy existing economic systems so the financial class can scoop up whatever pieces they can. It is a system that needs crises to sustain itself. Primitive destruction then primitive accumulation.

Will JDPON Don successfully end the American empire with his own cannibalistic ambitions and short sidedness? Will this be the last hoo-rah of finance capitalists to grow their portfolios before they collapse again? Will this straight up cause WW3?

I don't know. What I was trying to explain was that "Trump is a moron who can't manage the empire" is not a sufficient explanation of these events. That is liberal great man theory and as Marxists we must look to materialist explanations. Materially, China growing it's economic base while the US holds on by threads and this is a hail Mary from the financial class using the only tools they know how to use. If it doesn't work, I won't be surprised by using a material solution: war.

[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 22 points 13 hours ago (8 children)

Unfortunately I think we both are likely correct. However, the right doesn't realize that punishing the imperial core by taking away their cheap treats could backfire in a huge way. If the treats flow, USians will largely remain subservient. If they can't get hamburder and haircuts then they might actually do something cool.

[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 17 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I mean I can't call war between two nuclear powers as a bloomer take lol, but I agree that it would take a crisis of that scale for the PRC to deal with its liberal infestation.

[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 17 points 13 hours ago

Agree completely. Christianity was originally a doomsday cult and the bones are still there. As contradictions sharpen in the material base, why wouldn't the Superstructure of religion alter to reflect the coming collapse.

[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 10 points 13 hours ago

More reason to crash it all now while China is still holding.

[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 17 points 13 hours ago

Yes, my post was already long enough as is but I agree. I think that they are both dumb dumbs AND have a plan that follows logical action. There's something very Trump about "just fucking blow the whole thing up." Since material conditions determine history, I have no doubt that a different faction in power would come to your same conclusion about gradually destroying dependent nations.

[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 29 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

Doomer time: No they'll just liberalize the economy further

 

I see questions like "why hasn't Trump gotten CIA'd if he's ruining the American Empire?" I think the capitalist factions in power have their reasons to back this tariff terrorism.

Are Trump, Vance, and Musk actually morons who believe the American propaganda? Of course, but the real oligarchs who back their regime aren't real morons. Everyone in power since Obama has seen the writing on the wall: that China is the rising power and the American Empire is on the decline. The Obama faction decided to "Pivot to Asia" to slow this decline. Use military power and the Trans Pacific Partnership to isolate China as best as they could, hold onto whatever power they have in the region at all costs.

Trump in his first time, and later Biden, continued this logic but with emphasis on Europe. Trump in 2017 wanted to keep NATO in line and Biden used Ukraine and CHIPS to deepen EU reliance on American oil. Again, the overall strategy is "hold onto what we have to stave off American loss of international power."

But now it's clear that the US does not have control over traditional allies. Pissrael does as it pleases, Russia hasn't been brought to heel, and the EU wants to move closer to China. What is a US imperialist to do, more of the same?

Along comes Trump's return. The financial class that really runs this country hasn't stopped his trade wars, hasn't stopped his dismantling of soft power like USAID, hasn't disciplined him with a capital strike/flight. This means to me, they are willing to go in on the strategy. Trump is pressing the economic nuke, he's crashing the global economy and betting that the US will get hurt less than the rest of the world. And then maybe, EU and China will get hurt enough that the US can take big enough bites of their meals to survive.

In our reading group on Super Imperialism, we read about how US dollar hegemony is based on the recycling of dollars through US Treasury bonds. Essentially, the US is a net importer and runs a high deficit. As the US buys from advanced economies like China, EU, and Japan those nations build up a surplus of US dollars. Those countries don't want to spend USD on goods, because putting those dollars back into the material economy would lower the comparative value of USD. That would mean the RMB, Euros, and yen would have a harder time competing against American goods. These countries NEED the US (and other countries) to buy their goods and so they need USD to be stable. So they purchase US Treasury bonds, which gives them a productive investment without hurting the dollar. The US benefits immensely from this which is exactly what Obama-ites want to protect. It also means advanced economies are literally invested in the US economy as a major store of value.

However, this relationship probably can't last forever. So Trump and cronies are pulling the biggest card they have, the card nobody expected them to play. The world runs on American dollars so they're pulling the rug out. They're betting that the PRC and EU will be so hurt by a trade war that they'll either crash and burn or come to the table to beg for relief. Sure China is the world's factory, but the CPC has shown its main goal is stability for the Chinese people so it's a logical assumption they'll compromise rather than crash. The EU, Canada, and Mexico will surely hurt which will open up their industries for US banks to buy in at a bargain.

The logic is, if the system is gonna fall apart then the US should break it on its own terms rather than let the gradual decline happen. Will the bet pan out for US oligarchs? I really have no idea.

 

The bad China takes are already flowing in, thank for your vigilance on banning reactionaries (after we get a couple comments in).

I voted for refederating but I had forgotten just how brain dead online liberals can be.

 

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