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[–] Nerrad@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

That sucks. My small biz paid back our $60k loan, with interest. What a chump I was.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Genuinely. You paid an ice agent's salary for a year, plus signing bonus.

[–] Aneb@lemmy.world 23 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Legitimately every Republican I met is defending themselves, from taking money from the Government, while every leftest is fighting for everyone else to take money from gov programs. Why are retardpublicans so worried about poor people taking from the rich while also stealing the same benefits from working Americans who need it. "Riches for me but no one else" is literally their tagline

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

They’ll say “if they’re clever enough to not pay taxes then that’s fine by me!” as billionaires pay less than 1% real tax because they get to write the laws and then they’ll claim that a city bike lane has stolen their tax money.

They’re stupid as hell. Like, profundly fucking stupid. Conservatives are so pathetic and I’m embarrassed to be considered part of the same species as them.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 hours ago

It's just the political party for people who can't overcome evolutionary greed.

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 30 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (8 children)

SNAP shouldn't be necessary for anyone who works. The fact that in America someone can have a job and yet still needs SNAP to survive is absolutely disgusting and disrespectful. Pay people a living wage jfc.

[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

A new law should be passed, if you have a job and qualify for SNAP then your employer needs to increase your pay by 100 percent until you don't qualify for SNAP anymore.

Or we just stop the system where the corporations could buy laws to enable this, and their brutal enforcement.

The reason why laws are important, why you believe they're just, is because they're supposed to be the aggregate will of the people, and in practice, they're just not.

The only people ive ever talked to who thought the state should need to support someone who was working full time with food and housing and stuff is tankies, actual ML's who believed that that should be the core of the state. I guess in their ideal world there wouldn't be anything fucked up about that, but we don't live there.

It's not just the laws that are fucked here, its the entire system of law as thing that expresses and protects what people and communities want that has been almost precisely reversed in function, and whose enforcers make all of us live in fear. That's what needs to be fixed. The underlying systems that are not doing what it says on the package, because that's not what they were ever for. To continue trying to tweak the gun to your head until it cleans dirt off your floor is insane and unreasonable.

What did the Walton's for example actually do to control this much of the economy, to direct so much of it to their own whims and personal enrichment with no regard for or even explicit exclusion of the rest of us? Who thinks it was anything that deserved that kind of wealth?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 13 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I disagree. Pay people UBI so any job automatically becomes a living wage.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't that what SNAP already is!? Ohhh snap!

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Nope, SNAP is food assistance, meaning you get a couple hundred dollars to spend on groceries. UBI is cash you can spend on anything.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 12 points 8 hours ago

You're both right.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

Right. They are stealing your livelihood from both ends, not living up to their side of the bargain and blame you for this problem. America s should all collectively not show up to work for a week and see if the tune changes, cause I'll bet it sure as shit would.

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[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago

Please set up your dinky little table somewhere with many tall buildings Steven.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 68 points 12 hours ago

You can imagine how that went.

They're always so proud of upsetting other people, like it's a major win in the struggle for political dominance.

"I shat in the mall. You can imagine how that went."

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 42 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

Shit like that doesn't need to be debated.

Even in Ancient Rome they had a grain dole that... paid for itself! With interest! Because the poor who would otherwise struggle to buy wheat or barley got it, and could buy other stuff, even luxury items. The result is that more and more trade flowed directly to Rome and people made a bundle doing it.

And also less hungry people means less desperate people and it means more stability. Something that basically everyone wants.

But yes, these same right-wing grifters even attacked the grain dole in Ancient Rome as if it lead to the fall of the Roman Empire.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 3 points 8 hours ago

Pretty simple when it's spelled out like that.

But then... It's troubling, that even this simple's still out of reach for some short sighted greedy stupid smugnorant hypocritical parasitic narcissistic trolls.

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[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 16 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

He should give a pop up lecture at Utah State.

Why? They're a bunch of farmers out there, and it's like a half hour from the freeway and another hour or two to an airport.

Surely somewhere like Utah Valley University wouldn make more sense. 😜

[–] hodgepodgin@lemmy.zip 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

has chowder ever changed his mind during one of these or does he just troll the entire time

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 4 points 8 hours ago

Seems a safe bet it's the latter.

Feigns being reasonable and rational, when really he's already decided what the truth is, stubbornly sticking to his naive realism. All just a ploy. Seems he thrives on it. Narcissistic troll indeed. By his actions.

[–] saltnotsugar@lemmy.world 143 points 15 hours ago (11 children)

It’s hard for me to understand how someone can be such a piece of shit. Like yeah, let’s let children starve for no reason at all.

[–] Manjushri@piefed.social 79 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

No reason at all?! Are you kidding? They're doing it for profit. It's all for the bottom line! If a few kids starve, who cares? Most of them are brown anyway.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 12 points 12 hours ago

The funniest part is the stores and their suppliers are pushing for SNAP benefits in the interest of profits, so the profiteering is fighting itself.

[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 31 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

I think they also genuinely enjoy it and believe somewhere in the future whoever is left will thank them for it

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[–] axx@slrpnk.net 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

I think it's more than that, they are heavily invested in a rather nasty version of the "just world hypothesis": if bad stuff happens to these people, like being poor and hungry, it's because they are bad and deserve it.

It's the same logic at play for blaming victims or rape and sexual violence.

Because the alternative, that the world isn't fair and horrible stuff happens to good people and good things also happen to horrible people, is too unpleasant and exhausting to contemplate and requires complex thought.

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[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It's the Christian™ thing to do.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 27 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

It’s hard for me to understand how someone can be such a piece of shit.

Literally how he gets paid. He's a man-child whose every act of petulance and grotesqueness fattens his wallet and raises his social media profile. The only reason he's not filling the hole left by Charlie Kirk's neck is because Nick Fuentes, Ben Shapiro, and JD Vance all scrambled in first.

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[–] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 12 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Also this piece of shit doesnt have a mind worth changing. Just ignore him and use the calvin version of the meme, or better yet dont use that format anymore.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Imagine if someone genuinely did manage to change his stubborn mind though...

*Dreamer*

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Someone should shove a valid point down his throat😇

[–] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

Probably be worth a chuckle, sure.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 15 hours ago

And yet I was denied when I applied for PPP and I lost my business

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 points 8 hours ago

Average!?

I thought the average was the Democrat party.

... Ohhhh. Right. by USA standards. I see.

[–] don@lemmy.ca 12 points 12 hours ago

Universe: I need a benchmark for the absolute very worst of the species called human

Conservatives: ARE YOU FUCKING BLIND HOLY SHIT WE’RE STANDING RIGHT FUCKING HERE

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