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[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

it's not like he and the entirety of the bush admin were all part of a think tank which literally put out a paper which literally said that in order to enact their plans of revitalizing the american military it would "take a Pearl Harbor like event" or anything

oh wait they were, curious, concerning even

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago

Scenario 12-D

[–] Enternasyonal@lemmygrad.ml 41 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The relationship between the west and wahabbism during the cold war should be noted. This collaboration literally destroyed and destabilized like a dozen countries in MENA and is still very relevant as of 2025.

[–] Self_Sealing_Stem_Bolt@hexbear.net 36 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Reminder that Norman Mannettas testimony was not allowed in the reports because he placed cheney at a place he wasn't supposed to be at for the official narrative to work.

[–] buttwater@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Self_Sealing_Stem_Bolt@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thats part of it. Idk if all.of its there cause that felt like clicking on a virus link lol. Yeah. He testified about what happened in the emergency operations center and said where cheney was and at what time and thats the part they didnt like

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

where did he say he was and why did it conflict tho i'm lazy

[–] Self_Sealing_Stem_Bolt@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He claimed to be in that emergency shelter with cheney at a time that cheney was somewhere else. His testimony conflicted with the narrative. Idk how old everyone is but they had the narrative ready to go, before the buildings fell. They screamed al queda (i cant spell today) as soon as it happened.

[–] buttwater@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

Was idk 13 and 100% I remember they were screaming al qaeda as soon as it happened. Think we hit Afghanistan with cruise missiles the next morning

[–] buttwater@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

From my half assed research, Mineta's testimony time stamps Cheney at the Pentagon at 737am whereas there are pics of Cheney at the White House(?) at his desk watching tv at 736am. He couldn't have gotten from one location to the other that quickly, so there is a discrepancy and the official narrative is mineta had his timeline wrong. It's not a very interesting rabbit hole unless I missed something

It wasnt that, it was something about cheney was supposed to be in the command center at a certain time, and manettas testimony placed him outside in the hallway on the phone with someone (not on the official secure line) and cheneys testimony said there was no phone call. Its been awhile but thats what i remember, it wasnt at 730, it was later in the command center

[–] coolusername@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

there's like thousands of things that are off about the official narrative

[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 32 points 2 days ago

To be clear, I am mostly joking. But I think these photos are fucking weird and creepy.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago

No one could find Rumsfeld that morning because he was walking around the front of the Pentagon casually picking up pieces of debris

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He's hearing cash register noises.

[–] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

And as always wearing his 'human iris and pupil' contact lenses to cover the characteristic dollar-signs-for-eyes that mark his kind

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 14 points 2 days ago

Why is there a button on the desk marked [beam melting sequence]?

[–] MaxOS@hexbear.net 19 points 2 days ago
[–] micnd90@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Jet fuel can't melt steel beams is still goated

[–] coolusername@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

i do feel like the phrase was born from a psychological operation though. it's a bit of a strawman argument where it's easy to rebutte with "oh i just needs to weaken it enough".

[–] UmmmCheckPlease@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

All according to keikaku *

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago
  • translators note:

Keikaku means plan

[–] XxFemboy_Stalin_420_69xX@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

anyone got a guess as to why he's got a map of those states in particular on his wall?

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Probably one of those old surveys that boomer politicians always have of old amerikkka

[–] Ishmael@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Terrible cable management.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

Seriously, richest empire ever and that office looks like it belongs to some underpaid overworked social worker