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Lies, injustice and the North Korean way!

All hail Dear Leader!

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Everything about this is so messed up that the incompetent, lazy cop is the least surprising part.

no matter the tools, cops remain as stupid and malicious as ever

Everyone freaking out has forgotten: Do not talk to the police. Guilt is determined in court and anything you say, drumroll please, can be used against you. You will not talk your way out of getting arrested, shut the fuck up, and sort it out in court. The only person there to help you is your lawyer, the police are not there to help you.

Everyday is shut the fuck up Friday.

Don't talk to the police.

She feared the impact a theft charge, though small, would have on her financial career.

Why is this info public, what happened to innocent til proven guilty?

I strongly encourage everyone interested in this topic (and you should be!) to read the article because this shit runs deep and they see absolutely no problem approaching the law in this fashion. Absolutely disgusting erosion of liberty and privacy, though it's not the least bit surprising. Here's an excerpt i found particularly chilling--this cop is fully convinced (or acting as if he were) about the validity of this minimal-effort investigation they apparently were ready to arrest someone over. Note that weeks later it was fully disproven and ended with a terse email acknowledging that she provided enough proof to absolve herself as the suspect. No accountability for their mistake, just: "you can go now"

“You know we have cameras in that town. You can’t get a breath of fresh air in or out of that place without us knowing,” Milliman said to Elser, according to Ring doorbell footage of the Sept. 27 encounter viewed by The Colorado Sun.

“Just as an example, you’ve driven there about 20 times in the last month,” he added. 

Along with the Flock footage, the sergeant told Elser he also had a video from the theft victim that allegedly showed Elser ringing the doorbell before grabbing a package and running away. 

My favorite part

“I guess this is a shock to you, but I am telling you, this is a lock. One hundred percent. No doubt,” Milliman said.

😳

But Elser, a financial advisor, told the sergeant she had no idea what he was talking about. She asked several times to watch the video that Milliman insisted proved her guilt, but he refused to show her. And when Elser offered up footage from her Rivian’s onboard cameras to prove her innocence, Milliman said she could bring it to court.

“It doesn’t matter. I’ll be giving this all to you. If you are going to deny it to me, I am not going to help you with any courtesy,” Milliman said.

“It’s kind of funny because we have cameras on our truck, so we could show you exactly where we were,” Elser said. 

We are really fucked here. No accountability on their end, while foisting 200% accountability on ours.

“You know we have cameras in that town. You can’t get a breath of fresh air in or out of that place without us knowing,” Milliman said to Elser, according to Ring doorbell footage of the Sept. 27 encounter viewed by The Colorado Sun.

And he saw nothing wrong with that.

And america used to make fun of china for its surveillance, but I guess if you can't beat them, join them

She feared the impact a theft charge, though small, would have on her financial career.

Wild that a false accusation, after being proven as false at the court of law, can still impact one's career.

AI is built on a reward system. Its sole reason for existence is to complete its task and get the reward points. It will create false information to do this. One AI that a lawyer "accidentally" used in court actually created its own 4-5 page court cases to use as citations to justify the case it was working on.

AI is a novelty and should NOT be in charge of any decision making or be admissible as evidence in any way.

Worth noting that Ring has announced a partnership with Flock.

https://www.cnet.com/home/security/amazons-ring-cameras-push-deeper-into-police-and-government-surveillance/

So if you're in the Ring ecosystem, maybe time to re-consider.

I know she was acting to protect herself, but its too bad we couldn't see this played out in court.

So because she is better off financially and is not worried about google tracking, she had all the cameras, GPS tracking, and everything set up to prove her innocence.

I decline all of that stuff and i would have a MUCH tougher time proving my innocence when wrongly accused like she was.

This is just another step towards fascism where police are charging people for crimes they never committed, based on AI and computers screwing up.

At this point I need a shrine saying "hail to the GDPR" soon.

Unless you’re self hosting your own cameras, just don’t. If you don’t control the data then it’s somebody else’s camera.

Important for those who don't know: police can legally lie to you. Happens all the time when they're trying to get a confession. In a discussion, they'll be like "we have your fingerprints matched and we have video of you, so it's better if you're just honest with us." But they often don't have anything which is why they're desperate for a confession.

Weird to me that people are taking issue with the cameras more than the police work.

The problem here is charges being made with weak evidence and officers legally allowed to lie. I had a similar experience, but she was smarter than me. I was 22 and naive, thinking I didn't need to prove my innocence because they have to prove my guilt in court (logically seemed impossible when I wasn't guilty). The presumption of innocence is a lie. And juries and judges don't operate with pure logic and reason. I had to learn the hard way, losing many years of my life.

WTF? Do I have to allow shit in my car and phone to start tracking me to provide evidence in my favor when some ai decides it has "tracked" me? The only reason this lady got out of it without getting a lawyer and going to court is she allowed all the bullshit in her phone and car that I block. And if she didn't have it, what would have happened in court?

Go Colorado Sun! Proud sponsor for many years!

Reading the article, I am very confused. It appears that they simply decided a random person was the culprit because she was recorded as driving through town during the time period of the package theft, and that's all they had?

The root of the issue is allowing officer to lie in order to deprive people of thier rights.

He knew he had nothing, he was just trying to get a confession by saying it was a 100% lock. The cameras wouldn't matter as much if lieing like that was illegal.

Should disabling these cameras be considered community defense? Discuss.

No wonder Stephen Miller is so against citizens wearing masks.

Edward Snowden did try to warn us over a decade ago.