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[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 124 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Imagine being, like, 75 and suddenly having to learn philosophy of science

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't see how Johnson and Johnson haven't sued the absolute shit out of him at this point.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That’s probably why he’s saying it, lol. I doubt J&J wants a stupid, expensive lawsuit with the government over this, it wouldn’t surprise me if they’ve been in private talks to get them to walk it back.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

No way they don't sue, it's just a matter of time. I'm sure their sales have plummeted from all the idiots believing anything they read.

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[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 98 points 1 week ago (3 children)

"The causative association . . . between Tylenol given in pregnancy and the perinatal periods is not sufficient to say it definitely causes autism. But it is very suggestive," Kennedy told reporters, citing animal, blood and observational studies.

Was what he actually said, the headline is click bait.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

that not clickbait, it's called paraphrasing

can't put the entire paraghaph as a headline

[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 24 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Its deliberately obfuscating a critical part of the quote in order to get more attention.

Its clickbait.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

what part?

how would you have worded the headline to avoid what you call clickbait?

[–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Evidence linking Tylenol and autism not definitive "but very suggestive", says health secretary Kennedy.

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[–] stray@pawb.social 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think a more accurate paraphrasing would be that he said studies suggest Tylenol during pregnancy causes autism.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What "studies"? you are now literally making things up and pretending this is less clickbait?

A month later, Trump and Kennedy, neither of whom are doctors, held a press conference in September to specifically warn pregnant women against taking the medication without citing any scientific evidence.

Even the FDA, under these absolute morons, cannot come up with anything to throw at Acetaminophen

"The FDA is responding to prior clinical and laboratory studies that suggest a potential association between acetaminophen use during pregnancy and adverse neurodevelopmental outcomes," the agency said in its announcement. "FDA also recognizes that there are contrary studies showing no association and that there can be risks for untreated fever in pregnancy, both for the mother and fetus. "

[–] stray@pawb.social 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"The causative association with, between Tylenol given in pregnancy and the perinatal periods is not sufficient to say it definitely causes autism. But it is very suggestive," Kennedy told reporters, citing animal, blood and observational studies.

From the OP article, emphasis mine.

Even the quote you shared says "prior clinical and laboratory studies".

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

yes but they have provided no such "studies" to "suggest" this link... it is literally the opinion, without ANY SUBSTANCE, of a guy who chooses to swim in an open sewer

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

A respected academic telling me that something or another in data is "suggestive" means something. From a rando pseudoscientist working from the armchair, it means fuck all.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is just I don't want to get sued speak, no?

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[–] thagoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 85 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

One Texas AG lawsuit, and they panic and rescind because they know their bullshit won't hold up on court. Texas for the win????? 🤦‍♂️

[–] Mist101@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

~(つˆ0ˆ)つ。☆ The stars at night are big and bright clap clap clap clap

[–] darvocet@infosec.pub 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As a native Texan i want to make clear that there is never a situation where someone yells out "the stars at night are big and bright" and everyone claps.

That being said if it were to happen, absolutely everyone would clap.

[–] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No man, I saw it on a documentary about the Alamo.

[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago

The great American explorer Peewee Herman.

[–] Medic8teMe@lemmy.ca 84 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I wonder how this will stack up in Texas's lawsuit. Not that American law matters anymore....

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Too late, he did the damage he wanted to do and the cult isn't going to stop blaming Tylenol.

[–] Qwaffle_waffle@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Mist101@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hey! They could take some... oh, no...

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's cool. I'll just give them paracetamol. They won't know

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[–] HorreC@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago

But you said you knew it did......How could you slander/libel this brave american company.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 49 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's a shakedown warning to pharma companies: "we will upset your revenue stream unless you bribe us not to"

That's the only reason I can see a U-turn happening here

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

It can only good happen!

[–] Midnitte@beehaw.org 40 points 1 week ago (2 children)

....then why did you say it did?

Fucking reckless and dangerous.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Brain worm and swimming in feces, remember?

[–] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My guess is that worm just thinks Tylenol makes brain taste bitter.

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[–] Naich@lemmings.world 4 points 1 week ago

He has temporarily wrestled control of his brain back from the worm.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

What, they care for proof now?

Edit: nope, clickbait. Block that shit.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

It's pretty much worthless to read media and news that isn't by one of the very few remaining journalistic organizations, and even Reuters and AP have had issues.

I weep for the passing of truth and reality. I kinda thought we would go in the opposite direction a quarter century into the 21st millennium, but here we are. Reckon I'll go down to the local alchemist and pick up some leeches and mercury to keep the miasma at bay and balance the ol' humors.

[–] Zanathos@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Tylenol told him they'd sue his pants off is likely what happened here. It's only a US brand of a more generic aspirin after all. So which is it, the generic drug, or the brand name that causes autism? Surely can't be both in this case.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tylenol is paracetamol, aka acetaminophen, not aspirin.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Which is generally even safer than aspirin and ibuprofen.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Except for liver toxicity. It is actually the most common drug overdose.

[–] Manjushri@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago

Which is unsurprising. Too many people are unaware how easily you can OD on the stuff because they include it in medicines for other symptoms. Have a cold? Take a sinus medicine (Sudafed + Tylenol), and an expectorant (Mucinex + Tylenol), oh and maybe some Tylenol too for the headache.

[–] moody@lemmings.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If it wasn't already grandfathered in since before the FDA existed, it probably never would have been approved for sale.

Still doesn't cause autism though.

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[–] determinist@kbin.earth 3 points 1 week ago

acetaminophen (paracetamol)

[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 week ago
[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago

there is not ~~sufficient~~ any proof at all

FTFY

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

Here is some evidence that the worm is now moving again.

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It doesnt matter really, evidence is really irrelevant to the entire thing at this point. The people tuning in do not understand what autism is to begin with, let alone what evidence would even mean in this context.

I won't be surprised when studies show in a few years a large drop in Tylenol use during pregnancy (probably overall use too), and the diagnosis rate of autism continues the overall increasing trend (as we become better at diagnosing it).

[–] Bonus@mander.xyz 4 points 1 week ago

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[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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