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[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 64 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

aside from everything else, one of the most obvious signs that capitalism is a trash system is that we all have to know about this guy's shit takes. and not only that, his bullshit takes and notions create gravitational pull on societies resources, including state policy.

in any reasonable society, this opportunistic douchebag would have been picking up garbage on the side of the road and other work-release shit for trying to steal other peoples' ideas and collect tolls for their use. his attempts to legitimize "intellectual property" would have backfired and resulted in the nationalization and release to the public domain of large libraries of software.

instead we get this guy constantly trying to colonize africa's food system, hanging out on sex crime island, doing vaccine apartheid, becoming the largest owner of prime agricultural land in the US, and generally being able to walk the streets without anyone throwing rotten cabbage at his face.

[–] ryepunk@hexbear.net 32 points 3 days ago

Don't forget when he thought he could solve schools as well. He literally knows nothing about anything (not even fucking computers) and yet because he commands capital we have to listen to dumbass takes every time he thinks he's solved something. And because he isn't a total idiot like musk, most people take him seriously.

[–] redparadise@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Too many resources are spent on keeping Bill alive

[–] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago
[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

should-have-been-me two hours too late smdh negative

[–] Cat_Daddy@hexbear.net 70 points 3 days ago (2 children)

He was never an ally. Libs celebrated him, but his climate change stuff was for optics.

[–] ClassIsOver@hexbear.net 56 points 3 days ago

Literally greenwashing his reputation for predating his employees.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 40 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Hope 4chan and other hogs get a modicum of capacity for introspection so they can feel empty that they are very nakedly the cultural mainstream and all the porks are on their side and they only people they ever rebelled against was mommy and daddy.

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago

"guys look at me im a racist antiblack piece of shit who loves billionaires and capitalism, im such a rebel"

[–] tricerotops@hexbear.net 36 points 3 days ago

oh hey its the guy who kept the covid19 vaccine closed source

[–] KoboldKomrade@hexbear.net 43 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Death penalty or jail forever for anyone spreading climate denialism.

Going against the usual climate denialism common: We very much could unfuck everything we've done/are doing to the environment. Its bozos like this that will keep us from doing so, because they're the closest thing to satan to exist in this world.

Keeping somethings vague for you-know reasons. Ended up typing a lot more then I expected too lol.

I'm in a very conservative area right now. A conservative I think most of yall would recognize (at least by name) 'represents' me, the culture here is largely rotten 5th+ generation "Europeans", I'm about 70% certain an Italian place I've gone to is just one piece of hundreds owned by the mob, even one of the local realtors has a last name similar to one of the mob's former boss, etc, etc.

Even here, there is a huge amount of interest and grassroots effort to unfuck suburban America. People doing their best despite the barbarian law codes ruling us. Genuine interest in replanting native species and digging out non-natives. Living with nature as much as us crackers can.

Old conservatives talking to us (me and coworkers) about environmentalism, responable hunting and fishing, planting native plants, and expressing a seemingly genuine appreciation that us younger folks are doing hard work to restore the land. Huge portion of the younger folk are near-radicalized/radicalized on environmentalism. Theres collaboration between this VERY white area and the more diverse areas nearby.

Upper management appreciates that everyone who stops in is dumbfounded we're free, have so much information and interest, and do and provide so much for so little. We're the least of their problems, which means they don't complain about our budget unlike every other dept.

If we could hire like 5 full timers, we could really start clearing out the 200 acre park of the invasive plant species. Like 10 teens came in for a day and cleared a decent area a year ago and its largely still clear. We could do so much restoration if our budget was doubled, and we'd still be like 1/100th the local cop budget.

The know-how is very publically available, seeds are cheap, tools are simple, its just labor. Its all moderate-intense physical labor and takes a bit of knowledge (so you're not yanking good plants), but its entirely feasible for even a city to afford it, let alone the "richest nation". Some of the area arguably could just be mown down and replanted, a lot needs a managed burn, some probably could be plown under. None of it is rocket science. It been done before, and is being done.

There is so much work available, that is genuinely productive and would improve the lives of thousands of people, while providing jobs to a lot of interested and devoted people.

And we're nothing. Small fry even in the parks dept. 200 acres, 7 people, and $1m (just spit balling, likely lower). Gates could buy the 100 acres nearby (priced like $10m because the guy doesn't actually want to sell), fund our budget 10x for 100 years, and make what he gave us back before we could cash a check.

I talked to a kid recently, probably around 8 or 9 years old. Talked about the usual stuff we do, about one of our snakes and what it eats. About our responsibility to treat it right, and the difficulties in doing so responsibly. Fairly mature stuff, but I could tell he was interested and actually processing it. It was really touching.

I feel like that kid, in the 10 minutes I talked to them, put more thought, energy, effort into that snake, then Billiam has into anything in his life. And we're doing that daily, with a few hundred people a year. Its small, but its the closest thing to real impact someone like me can achieve.

I have some health problems that restrict me. Nothing major, just hurdles. I got the wrong degree for this work, comp sci ironically. I never planned on teaching and have some level of social anxiety, but now weekly give 30-45 min talks to 40 people. I'm ok financially, not rich but not suffering. I grew up a white cishet in a deeply regressive American environment. If I can do something good, imagine what these bozos could do.

But nope. Just peddling advanced markov chains. Enabling the continued ecocide. We could stop the decline we're seeing, right now. But capital won't let us, because they're playing cookie clicker and can't stop. Atleast I can overcome my adhd once and awhile and close my number go up machine.

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago

I can relate to having the realization that with virtually no resources you did far more to advance history than some of the most powerful people in the world.

[–] juniper@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago

But capital won't let us, because they're playing cookie clicker and can't stop. Atleast I can overcome my adhd once and awhile and close my number go up machine.

I've always used "hoarding" as a means to explain materialism to people. Society rewards capital despite it doing essentially the same thing as the "crazy" lady who hoards old newspapers. It's the paperclip optimizer trope that the AI nerds like to use.

[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 53 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

focus on 'improving lives'

Oh cool so he's throwing all in behind China and socialism with Chinese characteristics since they're proven experts at that. Right? Right??

[–] T34_69@hexbear.net 22 points 3 days ago

ah, then it'd loop back around to really addressing climate change by dedicating significant resources to the problem

[–] GaryLeChat@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 3 days ago

Mmm yeah but Hank and John Green's YouTube education syndicate told me Bill Gates is great and amazing and looking out for us. Kurzgesagt too!

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 44 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Motherfucker thinks framing climate change in "overall human welfare" won't immediately be seized upon as a topic by the far right because the people that need the most welfare will be non-white people fleeing the global south. Either he's out of touch or he's in cahoots with trying to create good conditions for fascists by steering liberals wrong.

[–] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 days ago

I bet these guys actually take credit for China's green energy initiatives. I bet in their minds it was their caterwauling about the emissions from industries they outsourcre to China themselves that changed the world

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

remember the earlish Internet when nobody disagreed he was the embodiment of Shaitan?

It says a lot that although more evil like his patronage of Epstein as been revealed, that modern libs slot him into the Mark Cuban category of 'good billionaire'

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 37 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Too many, TOO MANY?? WHAT FUCKING RESOURCES?? ^excluding^ ^China^ ^love^ ^you^ ^guys^

[–] RedSturgeon@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

Gates called out the “doomsday view” ... need to make a “strategic pivot” to focus on issues that have the “greatest impact on human welfare.”

"It’s the best way to ensure that everyone gets a chance to live a healthy and productive life no matter where they’re born, and no matter what kind of climate they’re born into," he wrote.

So he's saying "We broke it, we can't fix it, but look at the bright side, we can squeeze the most out of what's left."

[–] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 38 points 3 days ago (2 children)
  1. build huge (clean) energy generation capacity for datacenters
  2. AI bubble pops
  3. use generation capacity for carbon capture
  4. 🐢
[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 42 points 3 days ago (1 children)

unfortunately the whole notion of carbon capture is basically unworkable, the amount of carbon you'd have suck out of the air to make even the slightest bit of difference is orders of magnitude more than we'd be able to

[–] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 9 points 3 days ago (5 children)

are there any methods to reduce current atmospheric CO2 concentration that are workable?

if not we're more fucked than I realized.

IMO we should be attempting it at a global industrial scale.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 3 days ago

The two most effective actions we can take are rapidly transitioning away from fossil fuels and undertaking mass reforestation which is essentially what China is already doing. That said, the reality is we're now locked into some very severe consequences down the line because we've missed our chance for a smooth transition.

Countries may well turn to geoengineering, such as releasing reflective particles into the upper atmosphere, but that itself carries enormous risks since we don't truly understand the potential side effects.

In my view, we must begin shifting our mindset. We need to move from trying to avert the crisis to learning how to cope with living in a world whose climate has become hostile. This means seriously considering strategies like large-scale indoor farming, widespread water desalination, and other adaptation measures.

[–] Nacarbac@hexbear.net 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Western planning mostly seems to be about preparing to kill or enslave climate refugees, while pretending that the Great God of Progress will deliver unto us a mighty technosorcery juuuust in time - so that the most profitable move is to do nothing and win.

[–] Des@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Western planning mostly seems to be about preparing to kill or enslave climate refugees

my addon: (internal and external. oh and also all non-productive old or disabled people. oh and all gender and sexually diverse people. oh and all neurodiverse people. oh and a bunch of internal races and cultures we don't like. oh fuck it how about also 50% of the population across the board we just don't like. ohhh fuck how about instead just everyone that isn't a billionaire of a small select group of breedable pets.)

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

silicates withering is sort of workable, if very drastic.

the drastic part is the scale of damn problem, you have to shove 100 everests (in american units) into fields fairly rapidly, while scale of gravel production is around 1 gigaton, singular, which has to be scaled up like 100 times, good thingy though the tech for rock blowing up is easy and known, but yikes. i think this was like on the edge of feasibility of available silicate to be found, so it cannot be the only method in use in any case, but it is the fastest. (don't quote me on numbers though, there is also a lot of logistics hidden there, some rocks are just not usable for that purpose, cause you have to transport them too far, defeating the purpose)

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago

A good ballpark that helps communicate the scale of this is that we'd need to spin up a new industry operating on roughly the scale of the whole fossil fuel extraction industry--coal, oil, and gas together--basically all at once. We'd need similar levels of extraction, transportation, storage, and processing. It would be the fossil fuel industry operating in reverse. It took 200 years to get the fossil fuel industry this big, and that was with the incentive of it basically being a money printer too. It isn't going to happen.

[–] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh we are so fucked, 84% of all coral reefs are dead 66% last year. That's 4mil species gone forever. 2 degree warming goal already impossible to keep. Methane leaking everywhere ice melts and they don't even know how bad it will really be. And if the insects that pollinate keep dying, no more food.

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago

I'm sure Grok or whatever techbro bullshit will fix it 😬

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[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 23 points 3 days ago

They are burning fossil fuels for electricity. You can't make up for that with carbon capture.

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Isn't he a pedophile? Why are his opinions being amplified by the media?

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

because he's a rich pedophile

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Who do you think owns the media?

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 19 points 3 days ago

Are you telling me it's not collectively owned by the working class? I'm just now hearing about this?

trump-who-must-go

[–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

Oh no, no that's completely misinformed. You see, he rang up his good old buddy Epstein (who he was friends with post-conviction) for marital advice. Guess it didn't quite take though since his wife divorced him anyway.

[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago

Good billionaires are gonna save the world through innovation.

[–] Enternasyonal@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 days ago

too many resources are spent on overproduction of useless goods and services such as AI and meaningless other projects under the capitalist mode of production. Climate change is never going to stop as long as capitalists control the order.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 24 points 3 days ago

one would think installing with your beacoup bux solar panels in oil dependent countries would both help them with import accounts, improve lives and reduce emissions. but maybe not, cause that doesn't produce shareholder value or pedo hobnobbing.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago
[–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

who-did-this with corporate-art characteristics

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago

eco-porky We need to stop doing nothing about climate change!

ralsei-okay

eco-porky and use all of that energy to start doing nothing about 'improving lives'!

ralsei-angry

[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I remember him saying that AI would fix climate change so it doesn't matter in the past. Libs are going to start doing another I liked him before he went crazy for the 2nd time.

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, they won't, because he doesn't support Trump.

[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I remember him going to that Trump meeting recently with billionare CEOs where they were all kissing his ass. I forgot what he said exactly there but that was a start and libs were a little mad/shocked about it on the bluesky post that was posted here. Elon and Bezos were absent.

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, but he won't brag about it like Elon did, so the libs will remain blissfully ignorant.

[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah I can see them forgetting about it since he won't go full Elon so he would still be "civil" which is kind of their real gripe with Trump as well after all.

[–] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

Climate change is a doomsday cult. They want it to kill the poor off.

[–] adultswim_antifa@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago
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