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I mostly use apps installed from F-Droid, so I’m not sure how I’ll use the phone, except that it’s sometimes required as a contact method.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 days ago

Well, I did do app development for Android for a couple of years, so I'll be using ADB it install APKs in any device affected if needed.

I'll also never do development work for Android ever again, beyond making utilities for myself if need something like that.

Beyond that, I'll never buy an Android device that cannot be unlocked. Last one I got was a Xiaomi phone, which at the time could be unlocked (which I did and installed an alternative ROM on it before I started using it), but they stopped that so Xiaomi isn't going to be getting any more money from me.

Mid to long-term, I expect Linux devices are the solution. I'm especially interested in getting a Linux tablet (7" or 8") to replace the tablet I currently use mostly for book reading and internet browsing when I'm out and about (hence the size needs to be small enough to fit a back or jacket pocket).

When I started looking into it, my expectation was that Linux tablets would make even more sense as devices than phones since they're closer to notebooks in terms of how they're used, but I haven't really found all that many out there - there are more Linux phones than tablets - and all of them were 10" or more (so, too large for my use case).

(PS: suggestions welcome, even just stuff I can root and install something like Ubuntu Touch on it)

Am I so unusal in wanting an portable computing device with a big enough screen to read stuff, for the purpose of consuming media rather than working on (so no keyboard need), which is not so big that I need to haul it in a backpack, not a full-blown smartphone with all the bells as whistles (I already have a smarphone on my pocket with mobile data, camera and GPS, so why would I need that shit AGAIN on a tablet???) and not a locked-down system like iOS or Android?

[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Be fucked? I don't know I already hate most phones on the market and I'm going to need to buy a new one at some point, not looking forward to it...

[–] Benchamoneh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 3 days ago

I moved to GrapheneOS about a month ago, not too long after the announcement. Bought a used Pixel and jumped. TBH moving to Graphene was something I'd considered for a while for privacy reasons but Google gave me that last push.

There are some different ways of doing things but I've really enjoyed the transition overall.

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You can install with ADB, with droid-ify you can install apps with shizuku

[–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 3 days ago

I only use app from f-droid on lineage and I don't have a google account anymore, if that stops being an option I guess I'll use an old dumb phone and fuck all.

[–] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago

Google can't control the device if you're not running Google. GrapheneOS will still work like before, allowing you to run the apps you want. But the jury is still out on how long... I hope we can have a long term GrapheneOS solution regarding hardware.

[–] beyond@linkage.ds8.zone 21 points 3 days ago

LineageOS user here, so nothing will change for me. Perhaps in the long-term Google might kill off AOSP for good, in which case I'll seriously consider a so-called real Linux device. Cautiously optimistic about the FSF's Librephone project, which right now is attempting to reverse engineer blobs in Android devices.

I already have a Pinephone sitting around so maybe I'll re-flash Mobian on it and play around with it. In the long term my ideal distro would be Guix or some Guix derivative.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Start giving easy to follow de-googling instructions when and where you know them, people.

The bigger and more thorough the head start, the better.

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'll root and/or use ADB to install APKs. Fuck Google.

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[–] wellyon@lemmy.zip 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I hope there will be a good Linux phone in a few years that I can switch to. Would be great with it was compatible with the latest Fairphone by then, for a true FOSS and ethical phone.

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[–] DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago

keep using graphene os

[–] vortexal@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Well, I know that I probably wont be buying anymore android devices and I know for sure that I'll never buy an iOS device. But outside of that I'm not sure, I'll have to wait and see how things play out. If possible, I'd like to be able to use Linux or at least custom versions of android but, as of now, most of my devices don't have custom roms available and the two that do haven't been supported in years. I have looked into Linux phones, tablets and other portable devices like the Steam deck and the Legion Go S but they are very expensive and there isn't even a way for me to purchase some them.

I am also aware of ADB commands but I've never used them before. If they are easy enough to use without potentially bricking my devices, I am not opposed to using them.

[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

OniroOS hopefully will be out by then. If not then PostMarketOS. Harmony OS is rumoured to be launching globally in 2026 but I doubt.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Quite frankly im going to keep using GraphineOS, it doesn't really matter for me how much Google restricts AOSP code or sideloading. As much as I care about open source I need something secure and reliable.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 days ago (9 children)

I like Graphene, but I'm at the point where I would put up with less security for more freedom -- I just wouldn't put anything actually sensitive on my phone.

It's kind of silly that my phone should be an everything-device.

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[–] thax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

4/5g card in mPCIE slot until I source a more portable device to do phone things. Yes, there are m.2 options as well. If the supply chain eventually dries up, for expansion cards and/or FOSS phones, then I'll only communicate via my ISP or local mesh nets, until my computers break.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

I only run free/libre Android forks, so I don't care.

[–] ominouslemon@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 days ago (8 children)

I'll happily continue using my GrapheneOS Pixel since nothing will change for 3d-party ROMs :)

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 35 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Until it does. Google is already closing development, so the GrapheneOS devs will have a more difficult time rebasing their changes to AOSP each snapshot.

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[–] Kefla@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago

Keep on using my phone till a good Linux phone or similar releases.

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

I'll just adb install those same apps from f-droid. But my hope is that I will be using mobile linux more and more as a daily-driver, until it eventually replaces Android 100%

[–] dontblink@feddit.it 6 points 2 days ago

Slowly switch to Linux devices, or dumb phone, and learning to adapt happily living without some features, but also without control and censorship :)

I don't know yet, I'm going to keep track of developments around this and see what the community comes up with. I refuse to be bent over by tech giants.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 10 points 3 days ago

I'm fed up enough to try Ubuntu on my phone. But probably will use a custom ROM. And I will never ever buy a phone that is not confirmed unlocked. I hope others do the same. And I wish the locked phone companies many hours of doom scrolling on their unsalable phones.

[–] Notamoosen@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I'm likely going to use ladb to sideload "directly" on the device. I'm really hoping there are some legal challenges and/or bad pr to make them back down. I'm also considering picking up a Fairphone 4 or 5 and running CalyxOS as a plan B.

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[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago

I'm still rocking Android 8/10/11, will continue to do so until I can't run a proper web browser.

GrapheneOS for as long as it s available, then probably PostmarketOS for that Nokia N95 experience

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Sony update fails anyway, because i froze a non-essential app too much. Oh noes, my phone could be hacked with physical access, in a few years! But by then the phone is in their Open Firnware program and it's back to a custom ROM again.

The apps are regularly updated of course.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I'm gonna get a linux phone. I used a flip phone and windows phone for a long time. I don't actually need any of this bullshit.

[–] somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

brute force it with root

you literally cannot prevent root from doing anything.

[–] Oberyn@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What happens wen they prevent rꝏting tho ? Samsung already doing it

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

they can't prevent it so far. samsungs will just go back to needing root exploits like everyone else before them.

add to the fact they refuse to keep security updating phones for too long.

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[–] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 12 points 3 days ago

Use an alternative ROM. That is what I do now.

[–] lunatique@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 days ago (18 children)

I'm sure the community will fund a way to install them but honestly this is needed. People have to humble google and put them in their place once and for all. If people allow this to happen. Then those people don't deserve freedom anymore.

I'll keep my apps on my phone and just won't update them. Or I'll install a Linux distro on a capable phone on small tablet and use the applications for desktop or Linux mobile.

WE DON'T NEED GOOGLE.

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