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What will you do after Android starts restricting FOSS apps? (reddthat.com)

submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by PumpkinDrama@reddthat.com to c/opensource@lemmy.ml

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I mostly use apps installed from F-Droid, so I’m not sure how I’ll use the phone, except that it’s sometimes required as a contact method.

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[–] ominouslemon@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I'll happily continue using my GrapheneOS Pixel since nothing will change for 3d-party ROMs :)

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 35 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Until it does. Google is already closing development, so the GrapheneOS devs will have a more difficult time rebasing their changes to AOSP each snapshot.

[–] ominouslemon@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, it's a moving target for sure. For now, the devs seem to be very certain that AOSP will stay and that they will still be able to port GOS on new devices (although it will take more time and work).

[–] other8026@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Not exactly. GrapheneOS has an OEM partner and has early access to AOSP changes that aren't public. A huge downside to that is that security preview releases can't be open source until after Google makes the code public.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, that's not a huge downside. They still provide those security updates in their binary builds.

[–] other8026@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

Fair enough. I said "huge" because I guess some people care a lot. I personally don't and have been on security preview releases since they started releasing them.

[–] SrMono@feddit.org 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Is this verified, or does it still depend on how the mechanism is implemented?

[–] ominouslemon@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

If app installation is not managed by Google (i.e. if you're not using Google Mobile Services or GMS), Google cannot block the installation of any apps. Graphene's devs have confirmed themselves that this new measure will not affect their ROM

[–] illusionist@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago

That's great to read

[–] SrMono@feddit.org 4 points 3 weeks ago

Perfect. I thought about some kernel level shenanigans which could be out of influence for third party vendors.

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Can you tell me how the ad experience is with GrapheneOS? As in, do apps which try to insert ads in screen transitions (or anywhere) still do so? Or websites which put in AdSense popups?

GrapheneOS doesn't recommend AdAway or other adblocking solutions, so does it do so itself?

[–] ominouslemon@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It does not block anything by itself. I use Adguard as my DNS provider and it does that system-wide. It you can also use a VPN provider such as ProtonVPN that does it

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Hmm. OK, I've been using AdAway (not AdGuard) as DNS and/or VPN, experimenting with both) under Pixel 9 stock OS, and it mostly works... but some apps and websites still get ads through.

LineageOS w/Adaway root /etc/hosts blocklists was 100% perfect on my older phone... that's my main quibble with trying LineageOS vs. GrapheneOS.

I know some people recommend against rooting, but I've never had security issues doing it and it seemed to offer more bulletproof ad-blocking.