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It’s back! The 2027 Chevy Bolt gets an all-new LFP battery, but what else? (arstechnica.com)
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[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

No CarPlay and preview specs seem to be aligned more closely with the old standard model than the premium.

Does it have a heat pump?

But if they keep the price at a reasonable level they might sell a few. Faster charging is a big upgrade; the old one topped out at 55kw so it’s getting close to an hour wait at a charger along a road trip, which probably isn’t in a place that’s exactly well stocked with attractions to visit.

Wonder how it will stack up to the new Leaf. I think it’s got proper battery temperature management which was a blocker for some people and earned it a reputstion of being unreliable.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They had CarPlay/AA on the old models. GM has just removed it from all vehicles so they can sell you subscriptions.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yeah that’s my point - it’s a bit hard to see the value in replacing one, if you have it, unless the fast charging is important to you.

But for new buyers, it’s a bit of a problem. CarPlay is a huge deal for me.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 4 points 1 month ago

It is, absolutely. If I were buying today it would definitely be Kia/Hyundai models. They seem to be doing all the innovating at this point.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Carplay certification is expensive, or so I hear from people who should know. I can't blame manufactures for not wanting to pay that price. (The people I know who should know are under NDA and so ask they remain anonymous)

[–] artyom@piefed.social 6 points 1 month ago

It's a pittance compared to it's value. If that were the reason, they would still include AA, but they don't.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I do wish we’d go back to lower belt lines on cars. They look so dumpy.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I’m not certain but I believe it’s for crash protection on the sides and the high flat front is ostensibly for pedestrian protection.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

High fronts are not safer for pedestrians. The car hits their abdomen and chest and pushes them under the car instead of onto the hood.

My Volvo has a low, long hood with a padded engine cover and is among the best for pedestrian crashes.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Here’s an example of what I’m talking about, but while you may be correct that height has nothing to do with it, there’s definitely an increase in front height. They lost the bumper and made the transition to the bonnet much smoother.

Volvo of course did it 10 years prior

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Okay, I see it now. (Though I still don’t like the mk8’s styling.)

If only people would stomach roll cages inside the cabin maybe we’d get cool cars again.

[–] burble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The side crash protection should be solved by banning the roaming walls of death on the front of giant lifted pickups, not forcing an arms race until everything looks like an MRAP.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago

We all hate tall trucks used for the school run, but really, that’s got very little to do with a raised belt line for side impact protection.

[–] burble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

100% agreed. It's autobesity. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when I see people who think the new Ariya looks good. These things all just look bloated, lumpy, and sluggish.

I don't think the new Bolt (EUV) is as bad as a lot of new vehicles, mostly because the hood isn't as insanely over the top, but it's still a lot lumpier and chunkier than the regular old Bolt EV.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Not much range improvement, if any.

[–] Steve@communick.news 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Does it need more range?
Still well over 200miles.
And there are new chargers being built every day.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yes, with that slow of charging it needs more range. At least in the US.

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Triple the charge rate though. I think the OG Bolt was limited to 50kW

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes it is 50 on the original Bolt.

50 is great on the old SparkEV as it has a small but well over-provisioned battery that charges at full rate until nearly done (where most taper off significantly), giving it a C3 rate meaning 2O minutes to full. Not so much for the Bolt.

Interesting to see the torque figures. The SparkEV had way too much torque (the tires and steering can't handle so much oomph!) but the new Bolt comes with a chain and anchor.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago

The SparkEV had way too much torque (the tires and steering can't handle so much oomph!)

This is one of the things I hated about my Bolt, aside from the seats and the charging. Most everything else I liked a lot. You could even get extra Regen by throwing the car in reverse while descending down a mountain.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Excellent point.

[–] bolapara@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Well, it's an LFP battery which means you can charge it to 100% every day if you want and it won't degrade quickly like the previous generation's battery would if you did that. I charge mine to 70% and it shows about 170mi of range so this would be an improvement in that way.

[–] BromSwolligans@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sucks to see CarPlay go and we know why they did it, but I love the Bolt EUV, and it's good that there will continue to be an affordable option for folks still interested in EVs in this bizarre political moment. I think the new model looks pretty attractive, too, although the outgoing 2022-2023 models of EV and EUV were both pretty attractive as well, for being boring little family hatches.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I like the smaller bolt, so I guess I’ll be passing on this one.

I’ve read that drum brakes are cheaper and work just as well on an EV. I wonder why GM hasn’t reintroduced them as a cost saving measure. I’d also like to see a manual parking brake make a comeback.

Anyone know if this one has a shifter, or is it still using the push button D/L/R/P?