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[–] renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 370 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

This is not slop, this is political ~~misinformation~~ disinformation. Call it what it is.

Slop is annoying, but it's just AI generated spam. This is much more purposeful and insidious. The tools you used to make it are irrelevant.

[–] rowrowrowyourboat@sh.itjust.works 120 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Disinformation. Misinformation is when it's unintentional.

Right, that's more accurate.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 74 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As much as I hate to use this term because of the most prominent person associated with it:

This literally is an infowar, this is an actual psyop.

Targetted and fairly convincing mis and disinformation deployed at exactly the moment it would generate the most chaos and distrust in your own ability to evaluate reality?

Yeah. Yeah.

Thats a psyop, that is what an actual psyop is.

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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 150 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Republicans want to hate so badly, they'll literally create fiction to manifest it and be the victims...

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 80 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Always have. Most of them have never met the people they've been taught to hate. Or believe for some reason that the few they know are some sort of exception. The token "good ones".

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Right they hate these straw people. I mean, I;m not going to say my own cognitive projection of "conservative" is 100% accurate, but at least my nightmare scenarios are about actual bad things happening, and not like conservative nightmares of genetically inferior people getting to enjoy the gifts of civilization.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 27 points 1 week ago

The difference between us and them is that we don't want to do things to hurt them. Far from it. We honestly want to do things to help them. When we do hate them, it's not for who they are, but who they choose to be. And that makes all the difference.

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 89 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The phrase “I voted for this” has become a common thing for far-right supporters of Trump to say when something particularly brutal has happened to their political opponents.

I'll tell you what's at the bottom of it, If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you. -- Lyndon B. Johnson, attributed by Bill Moyers

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

That last part is still accurate He had it right.

I remember as a kid growing up in a extended family just emerging from the worst kind of american poor. My fathers generation was the first to have decent living conditions but still faced hunger as children. They all could remember when they got electricity and running water. The older generation of aunts and uncles would often say things like 'We may be poor but at least were not N******s". That hasn't changed a lot in some circular family tree's.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I've met racists who love this quote, they just think that "convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man" is equivalent to "convince a colored man he’s as good as a white man" here. They really do.

Also there are plenty of people who don't consider themselves racist, yet think their (American, British, whatever) color hierarchy exists outside of English-speaking countries and people there have to take it into account.

The kind that "is not racist", but if someone is racist, it's only the way that they are on top. They can't conceive that a Vietnamese or a Chinese racist may have a racial hierarchy where they are near chimps. When facing evidence of such being possible, they lose their mind and behave, honestly, quite racist.

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 79 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If right wing people were smart they wouldn't be right wing. Of course they're going to believe and share AI slop video. They're emotional driven fools.

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[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 65 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The smartest move I ever made was dropping all mainstream social media. I don't get any of this BS. Meta, Twitter, and Reddit are a plague on society and I'll have no part in it.

[–] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (7 children)

What would prevent Lemmy from becoming another Reddit if it gains the same user count? Not promoting specific users only because they have a lot of Karma?

[–] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Nothing prevents it totally. It could 100% be just as bad as Facebook. But only those servers owned by those propaganda pushers. It is harder to take over the whole and push your agenda to all users, when they can simply block your instance and let you stew in your hate.

Best example for that: the tankies, which are mostly ignored or ridiculed outside their own safe spaces.

And while I do think there will always be nationalistic fuckwards, I think the big number now and in the past are only possible due to massive propaganda. If that is not possible, people steer more to "normal" stuff. Because most people are not majorally negatively affected by the status quo.

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

What would prevent Lemmy from becoming another Reddit

You'd need to convince every one hosting a Lemmy instance (and all possible future ones) to sell their platform for money or blackmail them into submission...

With Reddit, they only needed to convince Spez which is like convincing an alcoholic to have a free shot of his fav poison

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[–] SlippiHUD@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If they can't differentiate between Ai Slop and reality, maybe we should start generating videos of ICE terrorizing Maga people.

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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 55 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What's wild about this is that people predicted AI would be used for nefarious purposes, but generally in the form of like, showing your opponents doing crimes. But here it's being used to show their own side doing crimes while the other side is only made to look "cringy" or more like a stereotype.

It really speaks to the utter depravity of the US right that, given a machine that can generate any video of anything they could imagine, this is what they do. These people are utterly incompatible with any kind of free or even functional society, and I really don't know what could ever be done fix them or their culture.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 54 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I never have to wonder what the Nazis in Germany would have done with modern technology. I wish I didn't know.

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[–] Fit_Series_573@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This has to be what trump is seeing over on Truth Social that's got him thinking cities are burning from protests, or at least that could be what his advisors are showing

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Expect much more of this and soon enough it will be impossible to distinguish between Real and fake videos

We can fix a little with digitally.sigbed videos to at least show that a video came from a verified source but that still won't fix the issue with leaked videos. Basically, leaked videos and open mike videos / audio clips are over, we can't ever trust them anymore

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I think the article really makes the point that it doesn't matter. The videos can LITERALLY have a watermark on them from the AI software, and people just dgaf. The battle is lost before it begins.

As with things like quotes and claims that could always be fake, it's back to the old journalistic practices of verifying sources with a second source. But that means being ignorant of things that were not being investigated by journalists, which creates a different filter bubble.

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[–] Bongles@lemmy.zip 34 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The troll farms are disastrous to this country.

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[–] verdi@feddit.org 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Confederate psy ops. The civil war is back, you just don't know it yet.

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[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 week ago

Its not fake if MAGA believes it ... that puts it into psyops territory.

Not real, but not exactly "fake".

[–] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trump supporters making shit up and constantly lying?

next you're gonna tell me the sky is blue

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[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Even if the images were real, I see a woman using her first amendment right to speech and assembly being assaulted by someone who has sworn to uphold the constitution.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago

WELCOME TO THE WORRRLD OF TOMOORRROW!

Where truth doesn't matter anymore.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This is actually pretty scary because they can just put their enemies in the videos to justify arresting people they don’t like

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[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 week ago

Some dumbass sumbitch eating this up. Unfortunately it’s like 50x that. So many dumb motherfuckers, not enough natural disasters to help the rest of us along.

[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We really are in a post-truth society.

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[–] pfr@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 week ago (4 children)

AI propaganda slop aside, fucking rise up already... FFS

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