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Outside a train station near Tokyo, hundreds of people cheer as Sohei Kamiya, head of the surging nationalist party Sanseito, criticizes Japan’s rapidly growing foreign population.

As opponents, separated by uniformed police and bodyguards, accuse him of racism, Kamiya shouts back, saying he is only talking common sense.

Sanseito, while still a minor party, made big gains in July’s parliamentary election, and Kamiya's “Japanese First” platform of anti-globalism, anti-immigration and anti-liberalism is gaining broader traction ahead of a ruling party vote Saturday that will choose the likely next prime minister.

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[–] fin@sh.itjust.works 0 points 23 minutes ago

He's supported by the most exceptionally ignorant among the right-wing (whom we call 'netto-uyoku'—Internet right-wings). Many people in Japan use Xitter as their primary source of information and are being brainwashed by the xenophobic conspiracies flooding the platform. This country is over; it's actually worse than America, IMHO.

[–] randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 7 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It's actually scary how quick they're rising. I live in Japan, and I once heard them at a intersection nearby on a car giving a speech. I hated how they speak. They sounded like they were heavily appealing to the emotion and used a lot of sentence final particles like ne, in a tone that sounded half-aggressive and also... very conservative in a way. They were talking some shit about how Japanese people should come first and that we should "protect Japan", as if there was some sort of foreign force trying to tear Japan down to pieces. What's worse was that there were actually people cheering for them. I actually wanted to go downstairs to shout at them but I restrained myself from doing that. I still sort of regret not going there to shout at them.

[–] olbaidiablo@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

Their society will collapse from this racism in a generation or so. No point in correcting people who can't see the writing on the wall. As much as the current regime tries to deny it, immigrants have been the strength of the US.

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 13 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Racism and xenophobia aside, how many humans do we need? Our poor earth. A declining population is probably an ok thing. I think it's the capitalist class ringing the alarm bell as they see their profit forecasts take a blow. How many hundreds of millions should that island hold?

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 minutes ago* (last edited 4 minutes ago)

Ideally, you evenly distribute the young, working people that are available on Earth. Japan has too few, Africa has gobs. (Although I don't even know if the trickle of foreigners they're taking in are from high-birth places)

Unfortunately, whatever the local majority group is is against whatever group isn't, and that's how you get history, and history happening again.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

This vid explains the situation better than I can (it's about South Korea but Japan is basically in the same boat)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufmu1WD2TSk

From a higher abstraction vantage point, you are not wrong, but you are basically advocating for entire countries to disappear

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

If the entire country wants to enact policies and cultures that would lead to their disappearance then who are we to tell them otherwise?

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Well it's also the pension system that will become hard to financially sustain. Generally you want the population to at least kind of replace itself to avoid economic upheaval.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

While true, that's an inherently unsustainable model. Pensions need to be self-sustaining, rather than relying on the next generation to pay for them. It's ridiculous that one generation basically got a free generation and now every generation afterwards is paying the previous generation's retirement

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

There's the quantatitve thing of currency, but also simply the reality that people actually have to work to provide the things the retired people need. In this case the money issue is modeling a more intrinsic issue. With fewer young workers the retirement age has to go up to maintain a viable ratio of non-workers to workers. Yes technology and such can also help things for the better, but roughly that's the state of things.

[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 30 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

Japan's population crisis is caused by its young people being too overworked and overcharged to want to have children. Their population by age is becoming very top-heavy which means that the young are paying a lot to keep the old alive.

The solution to this (apart from don't get into such a situation) is to import young workers to even out your population spread and to raise wages in line with the cost of living and raising a family.

They appear to be shouting "Damn foreigners! Coming over here and making all our elderly live longer than we can economically support them! Overworking our breeding generation so they don't want kids! Curse those foreigners!"

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 8 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

(overworks and robs an entire generation to death)

"Why would foreigners do this?"

Also I'm almost getting tired of posting this brilliant illustration but sheesh, if the jingoistic authoritarian entitlement clan isn't using the same playbook every. Time.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 minutes ago

It really is the best illustration of exactly what's happening.

[–] ztwhixsemhwldvka@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I'm not sure I like this comic because it suggests:

  1. The immigrant worker is absent a cookie not the other way around
  2. That the working class is dimwitted and easily hoodwinked into racism

I think both assumptions are actually copes by a middle class who, afraid to look at its own complicity in neoliberalism, find's easier to condemn the common people as racist and intellectually deficient.

In actuality I think the working class is intuitively aware that their disfranchisement is directly connected to policies like immigration. Along with the opening up of global markets which had a disruptive affect on wages the policy of open immigration has kept wages low and fractured communities and a common sense of culture.

[–] absentbird@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I think the cookie represents entitlements or government services granted to citizens.

The wealthy person has oodles of subsidies and tax breaks, but is trying to scare the working person by talking about the immigrant seeking equality.

That is literally the messaging from corporate media sources. The comic doesn't really get into whether the working person believes it or not, to me it's more about the messaging used by the wealthy.

I don't actually think global markets or immigration are inherently bad things. It's vastly superior to nationalism and rigid borders. The problems are entirely caused capital and the exploitation of workers, hence the plate overflowing with cookies. The wealthy are the problem, not immigrants.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Japan’s population crisis is caused by its young people being too overworked and overcharged to want to have children

While this may be a contributing factor, there is obviously more to it. Japanese workers actually work less than the OECD average hours per year. Take a look at a handful of countries such as: Mexico, South Korea, United States, Finland, Germany, and Japan (generally representative of their respective regions and income levels)

Then compare those country's hours worked to their fertility rate

Mexico works the most hours of any of those countries by far, only behind Colombia in terms of hours worked, yet has the highest fertility rate of any countries I listed

South Korea works a lot of hours, second highest of those countries, just above the US. They have by far the lowest birth rate. A bit over half that of Italy and Japan, the 2nd and 3rd lowest birthrate countries, yet both Italy and Japan work far less hours than South Korea

Germany and Finland, famed for their quality of life and lower working hours, both have relatively low fertility rates. Far less than the US and Mexico, countries with far more hours worked, and far fewer legal protections to workers - especially pregnant women


In short, when comparing different countries, I don't see a substantial correlation between hours worked and fertility rate

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Boomers of the world consumed all resources and pulled up all ladders behind them. American Boomers are especially oblivious to their roles in creating the current world, and seemingly oblivious to concepts like basic empathy. Their entire worldview is a function of how they can best benefit. "Generation Me," was the perfect tag.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Got mine, fuck you

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Or kill off anyone above the age of 70 /s

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Its basically the exact same issue happening everywhere in the western world, Japan is just a few steps further a long.

[–] Dreaming_Novaling@lemmy.zip 10 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

RIP. I really want to study abroad there and have been making plans, but the current admin + Japan's rising anti-foreigner stance really dampens my hopes. I get there's been some awful, entitled, shitty tourists and vloggers over there in the past few years, but I wish they'd realize that we're not all like that...

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

just do it. the whole world is getting xenophobic and the good times are not coming back anytime soon. don't let it keep you from living your life.

[–] fin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 40 minutes ago

I second this. Please come to Japan before it disappears.

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Japan is nice to visit, not so nice to live there (there's better and more easily approachable places). Racial discrimination is not new in Japan and their laws don't indicate of any changes like western societies have been implementing. You aren't getting lynched, but expect housing refusals, difficulties finding jobs, social exclusion, and stereotypes.
This is a gross overgeneralization though. If you find like minded people, they'll accept you. Shit, if you grew up playing Final Fantasy, chances are, your peers there did too and any stereotype is quickly forgotten.
But in general, don't be surprised when you don't get served beer cause you ain't Japanese.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 1 points 46 minutes ago

don’t be surprised when you don’t get served beer cause you ain’t Japanese

I lived in Japan for a few years. In the entire time I lived there, there was two instances I could say I experienced discrimination based on being a foreigner

Instance 1: I had a few friends visiting that don't speak Japanese, and we went to Sapporo. We were looking for a place to eat on the outskirts of the city, walked in a small ramen shop and were immediately told, in English, that the shop was closed (we had been speaking English among ourselves). In Japanese, I passive aggressively said, "Oh, I saw the sign saying the shop was open... sorry, I'll leave". It was like 6:30PM. They had their "open" sign on the door. The shop was almost certainly open

Instance 2: A bar in Shinjuku had a sign saying "No foreigners". I popped my head in and politely asked the master, in Japanese, what was up with the sign. He sit up when I spoke in Japanese and said because he doesn't speak English he didn't want to deal with the hassle of customers that can't speak Japanese


Which is to say, as a white foreigner from a high income country, the discrimination I've faced is public businesses that don't want to deal with customers that don't know the language and etiquette. Many of the other foreigners I've talked to had similar experiences, although outright racism or discrimination is not unheard of

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 22 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

More people need to raise hell about this group because they also have members who deny the Nanking Massacre.

[–] Legianus@programming.dev 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

So do Japanese history school books, they call it the Nanjing incident and divide the numbers of murdered by 10-ish

Japan is also led by a right wing government, just not as anti-immigration as these guys

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 hours ago

I can't say for sure regarding the textbooks because my kids aren't old enough to have learned about it, and I grew up in Canada.

And yes, you're definitely right about the government as well. At least they care about how they look to the world. Sanseito, on the other hand, don't give a shit.

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