Straight up me sowing / me reaping meme.
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Not Daddy!?!?
So what if he blames them?
The rest of the world outside of MAGA knows he's a fucking moron and can easily discount anything he has to say
lol tell that to the EU diplomats that concede to anything he says.
What they really fear is that daddy is gonna leave them to fend for themselves.
they're worried about that? It's a country in Europe. It's a war in Europe. These countries back Ukraine but to the minimum they believe they can do. Why wouldn't it at a minimum be a major failure of other European countries to fail the objective of Russia losing in Ukraine
NATO exists primarily to counter Russia and the Soviet Union. The European defense posture assumes America is an ally. Previously America has cut off intelligence sharing with Ukraine and that includes targeting data for missiles. America has also put restrictions on what Europe can do with weapons they've bought from America.
Then there's the fact that Biden willfully invited this invasion by suggesting Ukraine join NATO (with Biden himself previously saying publicly that that would be a red line for Putin) while also repeatedly stating America won't defend Ukraine if Russia does invade.
If Ukraine fails in it's defense, the one person I'd blame most would be Biden for being a scared timid old man slow walking aid. Trump would be number 2.
i'd blame zelenkyy for not controlling azov prior to russia's escalation
Utterly unimportant. I could spend all day coming up with better reasons.
sure, there's the coup and some other things but my contention here is that without the nazis trying to start a civil war there wouldn't be separatists or an escalation.
Russian escalation came because Putin was feeling the pressure from Navalny's anti-corruption campaign and other domestic problems. His popularity was suffering and successful military operations had always improved his popularity in the past (as they do for most national leaders). Coupled that with his Imperialist ambitions and invading Ukraine seemed like a win/win to him. Domestic concerns influence Geopolitics more than geopolitical concerns do.
Since 2014, it was not possible to control Azov and the far right in Ukraine. They could do what they wanted, they were above the law, and still are.
Anybody who thinks that any US president would've risked a nuclear war with Russia over Ukraine is naive beyond belief.
You say that like there was a serious risk of nuclear war. But the issue wasn't Ukraine, it was the rules based internation order that the US set up and benefitted from (despite also frequently breaking the rules)
The risk of nuclear war should never be dismissed. All it takes is one mistake or a single miscommunication and all bets are off. We are already in the most dangerous possible situation with Russia and the US having very little military dialogue, and the last non proliferation treaty expiring. The issue has of course always been the US hegemony, and the war in Ukraine is a proxy war that the west is fighting against Russia because it won't bend the knee.
The immediate issue is Russian Imperialism. US hegemony is only at play here in so far as it prevents Russian hegemony. That 2 Empires are having a pissing match should surprise no one.
Except that there is no immediate issue of Russian imperialism. The immediate issue is Russia responding to NATO encroaching on its borders. However, if you are afraid of being dominated by Russia, then you should know that Europeans are like the protagonist in a classic Greek tragedy enacting a self fulfilling prophecy. There is no realistic scenario where Russia can occupy Europe by military force. However, the destruction of European economy that's resulting from this war will absolutely ensure that Russia will be able to dominate Europe both politically and economically going forward. The Americans aren't there to protect you from Russian hegemony, they are actively cannibalizing Europe to prop up their own economy. The hollowed out husk will be discarded soon enough to fend for itself. Meanwhile, nationalist parties that have little qualms of patching relations up with Russia are already becoming the dominant political force in all major European countries. RN is the most popular party in France, AfD in Germany, and Reform in the UK. Europe is a geopolitical equivalent of captain Ahab.
NATO encroaching
*Free Nations previously invaded and/or dominated by Russia desperate to join the Don't be Invaded by Russia Alliance
Honestly, nations desperate to join an aggressive alliance that's responsible for death and destruction across the globe can get fucked. And they deserve everything that's coming to them.
An Alliance so aggressive that decades of peace lulled it into such deep complacency that they let their military capabilities atrophy? You're being a try-hard
Ask Qaddafi how peaceful they are.
Ask Qaddafi's victims how peaceful Qaddafi was
You asserted "decades of peace" when Libya was fucking bombed. Libya presented zero threat to Europe or Europeans.
That's not peace.
Also, is Libya better off today than it was under Qaddafi?
We were talking about Europe so I apparently wasn't specific enough. Most countries in NATO let any capacity they had for large scale land wars wither after the cold war ended since they only saw conflict in small "police actions" in far away lands as being in their future. Things like Kosovo. And, to be fair, even the Russians (Putin aside) were confident that Europe was past large land wars too.
An alliance that invaded Yugoslavia, and whose main sponsor has invaded Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, just to name a few victims. The fact that NATO was free to roam and pillage the world while ignoring Russia underlines the fact that Russia was not an actual threat. If it was, then NATO chuds would've been focusing on it rather than maundering around the globe.
The main problem is the three big Empires on Earth: the US, Russia, and China.
Way to make a false equivalence there.
Some of us don't "US bad, Russia good". We look at each individual scenario, analyze it, and come to conclusions.
Except you did zero analysis, you just went "everyone is bad" and felt smug and superior.