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They're just bluffing, they'd lose more money by withdrawing from the EU market, than finding ways to comply. Greedy corporations are easy to predict, since their only goal is money and they don't do things "out of principle".
Big tech only cares about money, something that makes them very predictable. Very high fines and banning costs them money, so they will comply to all demands to avoid. Easy as that :)
Knowing Apple, they’ll probably find a way to ‘comply’ that feels more like a loophole than a solution....
knowing the EU they are probably gonna fold and let apple do what it pleases.
Be pretty funny if Europe just banned them instead.
I give a fuck, I anyway prefer to lick ny belly before buying something from Apple.
I will add foldable display, perhaps categorized under "innovative hardware" or "hardware diversity". That's why I switched from iPhone after 17 years.
That yellow part is about to shrink and the orange part is about to go away completely when Google's dev verification hits next year unless you have a custom rom.
The yellow part depends on where you are. Xiaomi and Honor still offer great value for money.
In the EU Fairphone with /e/OS and a middle finger for the US
Do it stop shipping.
Who cares? The average EU citizen will benefit far more from the regulation. I don't think any of their laws have been bad so far, mostly requiring standard connectors, requiring user access to install what they want without apples permission, and monopolizing software stores in general. This might be a great opportunity to actually get some consumer friendly competition out of Europe for once. Also Samsung already allows third party app stores, has USB C like every other modern device, and allows side loading. It's going to get interesting once Google starts complaining that they can't control users devices after they buy them as well with their upcoming ban on non Google approved software installations.
obvious bluff is obvious
Apple sold well over $10 billion worth of Iphones in the EU in 2024, but rather than deal with the annoyance of EU regulation they're just going to take their ball and go home.
They must think EU regulators are imbeciles.
Or they think the people in the EU will do mass protests if they don’t get their product— forcing the regulators hands; maybe because of what happened with tiktok in Nepal— missing the nuance of the political and economic factors there however.
And Apple shareholders will revolt if Apple revenues drop by $10 billion because they're having a tantrum. I hope EU regulators call Apple's bluff. The U.S. is a corporate hellscape, the EU doesn't have to be.
Apple wouldn't stop. They need that money too much. Also, Europe is OK with going Huawei if Google and Apple keep up with their shit.
Europe is OK with going Huawei if Google and Apple keep up with their shit.
They should be OK with going Huawei and Xioami, but unfortunately they really want to remain America's faithful dogs.
Came here to say the same. It's an empty threat. After all this is famously the company who made dual physical SIM iPhones for China and other Asian regions because eSIM isn't/wasn't legal.
And zero SIM in America so they can force their controlling narrative rather than consumer choice.
They would never stop selling their products in Europe lol. And if they did, I wouldn’t care, even though I own a few Apple products.
You should never pay a blackmailer, because that incentives blackmailing. Still, everyone pays, because that causes the least pain
Same with this, they can bluff all they want; in the end, they won't not sell their devices in Europe, because that would mean lost profit and the least pain is complying.
Go die in a dirty back alley apple, you deserve it
Yeah, we don't really have systemic/infrastructure dependency on Apple. Compared to Microsoft (which we are dependant upon atm) who can and does extort the EU a bit everywhere it can.
That's why foss all the things!
Apple is such a piece of shit company.
Learn how to compete without behaving anti competitively or quit your fucking jobs. It's not complicated.
The problem is, and I'm pretty sure that's the reason nothing will change, the problem is that people act like corporations have some kind of obligation to act morally. Then they are angry at apple, Microsoft, Monsanto and co.
Corporations are a fucking tool, that try to maximize profit not more, not less.
What everyone has forgotten is, that there should be people setting the rules and optimizing this tool for the best of the people. Instead we all accepted these neo liberal bullshit, where we allow corporations to influence the law. And, oh wonder, who would have thought, these fucking tools use their money and influence to maximize profit even though everyone but the stakeholder suffers from it.
Renewable energy is an example, how in the world can someone prefer burning coal or oil instead of letting the wind turn a fan? But because big oil companies have a way to big part in creating those laws, we fuck the planet until it's too late and when it's too late, everyone will blame the tool for it. Which won't change a fucking thing.
Yep. Although that is the only way they've ever operated. They will never change without the force of law.
Don't threaten me with a good time Apple.
It's just empty threats though. The EU market is bigger than America (considering population sizes only), there is no way they'd give up on that
Given android id more popular in Europe than America, you could say apple is behind in market share, so providing less features is not a great business plan.
If Apple is behind in market share then how are they being penalized as a monopoly more than Samsung?
Behind, relative to the USA.
However, with a duopoly you can till Ansie market share.
Please stop shipping to anywhere.
I like my iPhone. It's solid hardware and reasonably capable software. It does everything I need it to do, and gives me really solid control over API access to privacy-centric controls like location and microphone.
I still wouldn't skip a beat to switch to another phone manufactured by another company (though I regret how much of a duopoly there is). The inconvenience is minor; Apple just needs to give me a shove and I'll switch.
Тhe last time I would have bought an Apple it would have been an Apple ][.
Yeah I'm sure Apple's going to give up on half a billion potential customers. Sure.
Cool, stop shipping the walled garden shit then.
They need us (our money). We dont even like them enough to not replace them the second they go away.
Am I misreading this or are their arguments all complete nonsense? From what I can see in the article they have:
Among the requirements of the DMA is that Apple ensures that headphones made by other brands will work with iPhones. It said this has been a block on it releasing its live translation service in the EU as it allows rival companies to access data from conversations, creating a privacy problem.
Apple said that under the DMA, “instead of competing by innovating, already successful companies are twisting the law to suit their own agendas – to collect more data from EU citizens, or to get Apple’s technology for free”.
It said that rules under the act affected the way it provided users access to apps. “Pornography apps are available on iPhone from other marketplaces – apps we’ve never allowed on the App Store because of the risks they create, especially for children,” it said.
the absurdity of their claims is how you can tell it's working. we need more of it acsoss the board
Am I misreading this or are their arguments all complete nonsense?
Its apple ... what did you expect? They have always been like this.
Among the requirements of the DMA is that Apple ensures that headphones made by other brands will work with iPhones. It said this has been a block on it releasing its live translation service in the EU as it allows rival companies to access data from conversations, creating a privacy problem.
I'm not really understanding this. Where is the privacy problem? What is different with airpods that solves this? At the end of the day, are they not just bluetooth headphones? Do they add some extra security layer beyond what bluetooth itself offers?
For real. It’s not like the processing power is done through the headphones. If they can act like a microphone and speaker, that’s all you should need.
I remember when apple used to reverse engineer microsoft software.. :/
Hey Apple... Fuck you
Oh no! How will I ignore their products now?
Don’t threaten us with a good time Apple!
Our overlords from Brussels are fucking pussies rn. They want to monitor our messages and verify everything. And they also want to ban privacy coins for some reason.
"If you don't let us misbehave, we're gonna cut off like a good 4th of our market share"