WATCH THE GODDAMN VIDEO BEFORE COMMENTING, PEOPLE
He DID NOT apologize. He simply displayed basic human empathy.
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
WATCH THE GODDAMN VIDEO BEFORE COMMENTING, PEOPLE
He DID NOT apologize. He simply displayed basic human empathy.
Nazis do not deserve empathy.
You've marked your account as a bot, perhaps unintentionally. But you seem like a human. You can disable this in settings. You should because there is an option to filter all bit comments out so people might not see you.
I thought I had turned it off... I tried but it seems it wont turn off. I'm using jerboa, do you think the issue comes from that?
I don't know, maybe? There should be a similar option on the actual website
Comedians make fun of school shootings quite regularly, but sorry i (didn't even) made fun of a dead fascist.
Comedians make fun of school shootings quite regularly
What comedians are you watching?
And I bet I can guess what side of the political spectrum they generally lie on
"I have many friends and family members on the other side who I love and remain close to, even though we don't agree on politics at all. I don't think the murderer who shot Charlie Kirk represents anyone. This was a sick person who believed violence was a solution, and it isn't, ever."
I don't know how you could stay close with maga people now. That sounds extremely difficult.
Not a fan of "sick" used in this context. I don't think there was any evidence that the alleged shooter suffered mental illness. Writing off disagreeable actions as sickness maligns people with actual illness.
Also, "ever" is a pretty broad claim. I don't think violence is typically the best solution, and arguably there were more tools left in the box to stop Kirk, but ultimately every right has to be backed by "or I'll stop you" or it's at risk. If masked men come to abduct you, violence is likely an appropriate response. Shooting a giant talking head, arguably not justified even if he's fanning the flames of hate and stochastic terrorism.
But overall it wasn't a boot licking capitulation, so that's nice. I didn't watch it live since I rarely watch TV.
There is a point when violence is a potentially valid response, but the bar for that is very high.
For example, assassinating a general who has and will continue to slaughter innocent civilians. Even then, the consequences have to be considered - do you stop the murders, or martyr him and make things worse, or does the next guy just continue?
Kirk spoke vile values, but did not deserve death. The answer to all the kirks out there is to sharpen your arguments and learn how to deny him control of the narrative. He's been embarrassed before, but the powerful backers make it difficult for those losses to be widely seen.
The Democratic party needs political warriors who do the research and have the oratory skills to directly destroy bullshit. They need to take multiple seminars from Jasmine Crockett, Bernie Sanders, and AOC.
The answer to all the kirks out there is to sharpen your arguments and learn how to deny him control of the narrative.
I don't think this is the complete solution, because of the consolidation of power in the hands of the wealthy. You could have the best arguments in the world, but if YouTube promotes your opponent instead of you, that's an uphill battle. If they get millions in funding for advertising, staff, and research, and you don't, that's not a fight won merely by sharpness of wit.
People talk about the marketplace of ideas as if solely the better idea will win. Stuff wins in marketplaces for dubious reasons like funding and familiarity rather than merit all the time.
That's not to say we should just shoot all the republicans. Rather, this is a conflict on many fronts, and "they have almost all the money and thus control" is a big tactical concern. I don't know how to fix that.
yeah I mean look at the Clinton Impeachment, the Drudge Report, that guy who shot a BLM protestor... conservative pockets are deep.
The solution is to regulate all news outfits to enforced neutrality and a clear separate of fact and opinion which can't be reported adjacently.
The solution is to regulate all news outfits to enforced neutrality and a clear separate of fact and opinion which can’t be reported adjacently.
We already had that: the Fairness Doctrine. Guess who repealed it?
That's right, it was Reagan!
Shitty actors playing president have done arguably more damage to the country than all the rest of them combined, and there have only been two of them.
I feel you are absolutely right. I also feel that we need to be able to look in the mirror and honestly know we are better than the beliefs we disavow.
Hypocracy is not a good look. We all know the "right" regularly celebrates the harm to "libtards".
Our values say that is wrong. If we turn around and do the exact same thing to them, we betray those values and show we're no better than them.
I’m assuming (hoping)he means regular conservative people, not MAGA types. You can be conservative and not support Trump.
He never made "light of the murder of a young man", he called Trump out on his hypocrisy. In fact Kirk was barely mentioned. The segment was almost entirely ripping on Trump.
Spineless, unfunny git, bending the knee to keep his job.
He apologized?!? He didn’t say anything about Kirk, only the machine pushing the narrative. And Trump, per usual.
So, what, now we have the state cleansed version of Kimmel?
He did not. You should probably watch or read his monologue before commenting.
remember, half of everyone is dumber than the average person. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTZjo42xRH4
I wonder which half of me is the dumb half...
All of it below the tropic of Capricorn
Neither half has to be.
Idk
Half of everyone is dumber than the average person
I'm part of everyone.
He apologized?!?
Where?
apparently ITT: displaying empathy and emotion = capitulation with, and apologizing to, the state.
He didn't apologize at all, in a middle finger to Sinclair broadcasting who said that was a condition for him going back on their air.
I just watched it, no capacity to do so at work. It was good. And he slammed Carr.
What kills me is they’re totally getting away with doing the same to Colbert simply because they weren’t so brazen about it. The fevered aggression of a cause was there to try to drive it.
Next headline will probably be Carr being fired.
Agreed completely, it's absolute horseshit what they're doing, but at least Kimmel got put back on in a show of defiance somewhat.
They never should have folded like that in the first place to the chairman of the FCC, but this is our new authoritarian reality.
Side distraction of minor, short lived amusement: Trump lost his mind, or what’s left of it, over this news.
Rueters: "Jimmy Kimmel apologizes"
Everyone who watched: "So that was a lie."
He just unbased himself
Is that un-fetch, then?