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I've seen a lot of complaints and Windows 11 on Lemmy, (ads in the OS, intrusive AI, SSD damage, privacy issues, etc.) I've gone to Linux on my laptop, but I don't believe I can do this for my daily driver desktop. So if I'm forced to update to 11, I'd like to do so in the "safest possible manner." Any guidance would be appreciated.

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[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 2 points 1 hour ago

Before I went all in with Linux I used to make a custom autounattended.xml file that you dump in the usb installer root. This tool makes it easy to generate one with your desired options:

https://schneegans.de/windows/unattend-generator/

Then after install, use ShutUp10 to block telemetry/keyloggers/sync and run after every Windows Update because Microsoft resets these things often.

[–] FUCKING_CUNO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 hours ago
[–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

https://archive.org/details/tiny-11-NTDEV

Tiny11. But be careful not to update this.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

http://massgrave.dev/.

Install the LTSC IoT edition of Windows, which comes minus the bloat. It's sort of an official Microsoft minimal install version. You can activate it with the scripts you find at massgrave.

[–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

This is the best answer, by far. Also look to use StartAllBack on top of that. Best modern Windows experience.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 14 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I would install win 11 with no internet connection so you can use a local account not a Microsoft account. Then once booted into windows run the Chris Titus tool to disable a significant chunk of the Windows bullshit.

[–] alphabethunter@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You can use Chris Titus tool to make a debloated usb before even having to install it. You download the official .iso from MS, and use his tool instead of Rufus to burn a debloated minimal version to a bootable usb.

[–] mugita_sokiovt@discuss.online 0 points 4 hours ago

If one wants to use Windows for some stupid reason, this tool I would second. Otherwise, join the Free Software side and use Linux.

[–] GenitalHurricane@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

ShutUp10 has been my go-to for many years. (Yes it does 11 too)

https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] GenitalHurricane@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Only a few settings on some updates, and then you just run your saved template and reboot and it's back to normal Although I see there are some better minimal install options in the other comments

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 12 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Why can't you do linux for your daily driver desktop?

[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

What I do is a clean installation with Rufus (disabling ram limitation, bitlocker among other things), then I run Crapfixer, next I remove Bing, OneDrive, default video player, etc. with RevoUninstaller. Finally I do install my own drop-in replacements for video player, image viewer, and so on.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 1 points 4 hours ago

And then you have to re-verify your changes after every update.

[–] Zarxrax@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

I started with Rufus as well, but then I just uninstalled things directly through Windows and went through the settings to disable everything I didn't want. Probably safer than using 3rd party applications to remove things. I also use Openshell to replace the start menu. If you change the time and currency settings during install, that apparently disabled some things as well. See here And if you don't want to set up a Microsoft account, just stay disconnected from Internet during install, it will let you just set up a local account.

[–] CMDR_Horn@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Since you're at least familiar with it, would you be willing and able to try Linux as your daily driver? You might surprise yourself.

For years I dual booted essentially thinking I wasn't ready to daily it. In the end I just needed to commit and stop booting to windows.

[–] classic@fedia.io 2 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Where can I look up to see if games that I want to play that are currently PC only can also be played on Linux?

[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

If you don't mind sailing the high seas, Windows LTSC is about as debloated as Windows gets. LTSC is an official windows version but isn't available for retail purchase, as it's intended for iot and embedded systems.

[–] ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

This is an actual good solution. Where would you recomend i start looking?

[–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You know how there's those large burials that happen sometimes? What would you call a place where lots of deceased humans are buried?

[–] ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Pretend I am 5 and have just discovered the internet. Please.

[–] JohnWorks@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago

I’ve ran the windows iso through Chris Titus’s tool to make a microwin iso. Then installed that through ventoy and then ran Chris Titus’s tool in windows after it got done installing. Been working great for a while now.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 6 hours ago

you want an enterprise license of windows for it to be any good. not easy to get as normie, if you got IT types, they might be able to help

anything else is sus imho

[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one -2 points 6 hours ago

Plenty, but you'll only get Linux spam here so look elsewhere.