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President Donald Trump said he is designating the far-left anti-fascism movement Antifa as a terrorist organization, announcing the move on his Truth Social platform in the early hours of Thursday morning UK time.

It wasn’t immediately clear what mechanism Trump would use to make the designation, and Antifa lacks centralized structure or defined leadership, making it unclear who or what precisely would be targeted.

“I am pleased to inform our many U.S.A. Patriots that I am designating ANTIFA, A SICK, DANGEROUS, RADICAL LEFT DISASTER, AS A MAJOR TERRORIST ORGANIZATION,” Trump wrote. “I will also be strongly recommending that those funding ANTIFA be thoroughly investigated in accordance with the highest legal standards and practices. Thank you for your attention to this matter!”

A White House official told CNN, “This is just one of many actions the president will take to address left wing organizations that fuel political violence.”

Trump — who’s overseas for a formal state visit — signaled the move earlier this week in remarks from the Oval Office following the murder of conservative activist Charlie Kirk.

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[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Next he'll decree that human decency is a terrorist organization.

[–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 368 points 5 days ago (11 children)

To be a terrorist organization, don’t you first have to be… an organization?

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 184 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Or at least commit acts of terrorism?

How do you add "no terrorism" to "no organization", and come up with "terrorist organization"?

Antifa's Wikipedia page has a similar juxtaposition:

Several analyses, reports, and studies have concluded that antifa is not a major domestic terrorism risk. On September 17, 2025, Trump announced plans to designate Antifa as a "major terrorist organization."

[–] TheFermentalist@reddthat.com 45 points 5 days ago

See, that’s a double negative, so the “no’s” cancel each other out, therefore you are left with a terrorist organisation

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 61 points 5 days ago (5 children)

That's why they want to do it. If there's no hierarchy or apparatus, no Central structure, no actual organization, well that all just means that they can call you a member if they want and there's nothing to dispute it. It's perfect for them.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 35 points 5 days ago

Plus, so many of your rights are stripped once you are charged with terrorism, so as they continue to pass laws that bypass due process they can just use this to round up citizens and put them in camps

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[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 138 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 218 points 5 days ago (10 children)

How do they decide someone is antifa? Is it going to be just everyone they don't like?

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 84 points 5 days ago (9 children)

Anything not in line with the fascists, yes. Anti-Trump will be illegal.

America seems to want this.

[–] credo@lemmy.world 57 points 5 days ago (1 children)

“Are you against fascism?”

yes

“So you’re anti fascist?”

yes..

“We have a confession boys, prepare the firing squad”

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 140 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Any resistance will be declared Antifa. Anyone that gets in Trump's way will be declared Antifa. Anything not Maga will be declared Antifa.

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[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 37 points 4 days ago (3 children)

This is him outright stating he is a fascist.

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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 73 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Antifa is not an organization, it's an ideology. To be a patriotic American is synonymous with Antifascism. MAGA on the other hand, is a terrorist organization that has hijacked the United States Government in an ongoing coup.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 53 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Where is ANTIFA?

When was the last time someone saw ANTIFA?

Who are ANTIFA's leaders?

Just another scare tactic to get terrified conservatives to fear an invisible boogeyman even more than they already do.

Also, let's be clear. ANTIFA stands for Anti-Fascist. In a nation not run by actual fascists, anti-fascism is a good thing.

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[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 109 points 5 days ago
[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 53 points 4 days ago (6 children)

He is following the Nazi playbook to a T.

Come 2026, many of us will be arrested with no due process and put into concentration camps for using the 1st amendment. The dictatorship is here and republicans REFUSE to admit it because the fascist is on their side.

We have to make a decision in the next few months. Continue to work, be a member of society, and ignore what is happening. Or cause massive disruptions that will get change started.

Sadly, i don't think the majority of the population is willing to fight until they are in the bread line.

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[–] tootoughtoremember@lemmy.world 39 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

Take that anti-fascists!

wait...

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[–] suicidaleggroll@lemmy.world 41 points 4 days ago (3 children)

ANTIFA is not an organization, it's a movement, an idea. Anybody who disapproves of fascism is ANTIFA, by definition, and are therefore now considered terrorists by this administration. This move is so that people can now be arrested, deported, detained, executed for speaking out against this administration. There are STILL people being held in Gitmo without trial because the state considered them terrorists. That's where we're at now with anybody who dares to speak out against Trump or joins a protest against this administration.

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[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 46 points 4 days ago (2 children)
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[–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 18 points 4 days ago (2 children)

To a fascist government, anti-fascists are "terrorists". It was the same for partisans in nazifascist occupied Europe.

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[–] radiofreebc@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Antifa isn't an organization...it's an idea. So, if someone is anti-fascist, they're terrorists?

Make it make sense.

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[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 101 points 5 days ago (7 children)

They should send Vance on a quest to find antifa headquarters.

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 44 points 5 days ago

Let me fix the headline... Ahem.

Trump admits that he is pro-fascism.

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"It wasn’t immediately clear what mechanism Trump would use to make the designation, and Antifa lacks centralized structure or defined leadership, making it unclear who or what precisely would be targeted."

Lmao this is the whole point -- right wing leaders (for now Trump, but also whatever shithead populists arise after him) can just slap the Antifa label on whoever they don't like, to justify whatever they want to do with them.

Not that different from the "terrorism" label in the early 2000s. Some people were shouting as loud as they could from as many rooftops as they could, that this label would eventually be used far more broadly than initially intended. Sure enough, look at us now. "Stopping terrorism" has been used to justify all manner of insanely not-OK shit.

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 78 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Must mean they're pro fascist, then.

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[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 51 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

He's going to weaponize this to go after Sanders, Warren, AOC and the like.

..And we're continuing our march to 1930s Germany

EDIT: I wouldn't be surprised that he used this as an excuse to kick out all Democrats from government, just like evil mustache man did.

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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

making it unclear who or what precisely would be targeted.

That's not just deliberate, it's the point.

By keeping it vague while controlling the agencies and courts responsible for enforcing it, they can declare all resistance to be Antifa (like their media echo chamber already does) and thus terrorism.

This is literally criminalizing constitutionally protected dissent and then elevating the crime to terrorism.

“I will also be strongly recommending that those funding ANTIFA be thoroughly investigated"

Proof positive that he doesn't know how the law works, since funding a designated terrorist organization is already deemed a crime and thus investigated 🙄

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[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 78 points 5 days ago (2 children)
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[–] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Anti antifa = pro fascism

Is this admitting now that they are straight up fascists?

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[–] lemmylump@lemmy.world 63 points 5 days ago (3 children)

They are doing this so they can call any protests antifa and arrest you, call you antifa and a terrorist, then hold you without trial indefinitely.

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[–] hraegsvelmir@ani.social 20 points 4 days ago

It wasn’t immediately clear what mechanism Trump would use to make the designation, and Antifa lacks centralized structure or defined leadership, making it unclear who or what precisely would be targeted.

Honestly, seems pretty clear to me. It's a blank check for them to lock up anyone inconvenient. If you participate in a protest, talk trash about whoever happens to be the MAGA darling of the day, or do anything else they dislike, they can accuse you and/or the event of being associated with Antifa, and job done. Maybe it won't hold up in court (for now), but that's still a threat that will help to chill dissent.

[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago

This is the pretext they will use to start disappearing democrats. Under the PATRIOT act, someone that is designated a terrorist can be held without charges, indefinitely; and in most cases so far, be subject to torture. All the extraordinary renditions throughout the 2000s were done under this pretext. The best part is, once someone says you’re a terrorist, that’s it! No evidence needed because the protections of the law no longer apply to you, so no due process or habeas corpus. They’ll just disappear you, and it will 100% be legal.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 58 points 5 days ago (2 children)

So being Anti Fascist is now a terrorist org? Fuck you Trump , goddamn pedophile rapist. I say Trump administration as terrorist organization.

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[–] Technoworcester@feddit.uk 40 points 5 days ago (5 children)
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Centrists are gonna keep throwing people under the bus to appease fascists.

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[–] lmagitem@lemmy.zip 29 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Dear US frogs, the water is boiling. If you have the possibility to either leave or organize armed resistance, you should do it fast. Your window of opportunity is about to close.

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[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 34 points 5 days ago (2 children)

What's really bad about this is that the moment you are officially labelled by the government as a terrorist they can violate any rights you have

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 37 points 5 days ago

Which is exactly why it was a mistake to decide that human rights no longer apply to icky terrorists.

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[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago (10 children)

Antifa is so 2016 dude, it doesn't exist anymore.

It's another distraction for his base to not realize they are being screwed so royally by their daddy trump.

You can't just declare random people who hate Nazis a terrorist group and then ignore proud boys, the KKK, and MAGA.

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[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 45 points 5 days ago

Well in this case I hope they can’t legally claim to not be fascist anymore.

[–] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Is Antifa an actual organisation? I always thought of it as a vague lumping together of leftish people by ... well, by people like Trump.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 22 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Good luck with that. ANTIFA is an idea, not an organization. It's like criminalizing someone who says they are "spiritual," or "New Age."

The silver lining to this lunacy is that IF we ever regain control of America, we can use this precedent to declare MAGA to be a violent terrorist hate group, and prohibit it, and arrest anyone who tries to revive it.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Good luck with that. ANTIFA is an idea, not an organization. It’s like criminalizing someone who says they are “spiritual,” or “New Age.”

That's the point, anyone can be part of Antifa. The Trumpie Regime can arrest anyone on bogus charges with bullshit evidence. EDIT: The lack of hierarchy and goals outside of being anti-fascist is what would allow Trumpie and Blondie to charge/kill anyone for being part of Antifa.

Protested at No Kings Rally? Antifa. Jail.
Said mean things about Trumpie? Antifa. Extrajudicial killing.
Made a Republican cry? Antifa. El Salvador Death Camp.

The US Public already green lit stripping rights away from terrorists was fine. The next will be drug smugglers and drug dealers. Then it will be the mental ill and hey look at that the Regime has been saying LGBT people are mental ill, better take their rights away. Homeless camps have a lot of crime and we should take away their rights. This just keeps going and going.

Trumpie is a giant walking piece of shit, who raped women and girls, committed numerous criminal offences, and actively corrupt. Trumpie should have been in prison a long time ago. Yet, Trumpie still deserves having rights. If you take away Trumpie's rights, you have demonstrated that rights are privileges. Guarantee, another government will find ways to expand the situation of removing Trumpie's rights to fit that government's agenda.

The silver lining to this lunacy is that IF we ever regain control of America, we can use this precedent to declare MAGA to be a violent terrorist hate group, and prohibit it, and arrest anyone who tries to revive it.

Centrists will make sure that never happens.

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[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 35 points 5 days ago

Is the organization in the room with us right now?

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

"Antifa lacks centralized structure or defined leadership"

That was literally my first thought: Is that even a thing? Is that even an organization?

No. Of course not. It's just another thing he'll use to put his opposition in prison. He's learned from his mentors, Putin and Xi.

He never learned "what NATO is" or "that healthcare is so hard", but he learned this. (Trump has said that when he started his first term he didn't know what NATO was and at one point he said "who would've thought healthcare would be so hard?")

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