Of course Trump will declare ANTIFA a terrorist organization, any fascist would do that.
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I suppose this will please MAGA, in spite of making no sense.
To a fascist government, anti-fascists are "terrorists". It was the same for partisans in nazifascist occupied Europe.
Communists*
Yes, a lot of partisans were communists. What's your point?
Centrists are gonna keep throwing people under the bus to appease fascists.
Look, mum, I'm a terrorist
Next he’s gonna put out a warrant for the bogeyman. Senile fuck.
This is him outright stating he is a fascist.
Explain?
What do you not understand about criminalizing anti-fascism as a concept?
Antifa isn't an organization...it's an idea. So, if someone is anti-fascist, they're terrorists?
Make it make sense.
See: Israel, Hamas. Reuters: "this news camera is Hamas."
See that's the neat part: since it's not an organization, you can just call anyone and everyone Antifa and lock them up. How would they prove their innocence?
If you're not maga you're Antifa. Get it now? The frogs are boiling.
Without "FA", there would be no "ANTI-FA"...
It wasn’t immediately clear what mechanism Trump would use to make the designation, and Antifa lacks centralized structure or defined leadership, making it unclear who or what precisely would be targeted.
Honestly, seems pretty clear to me. It's a blank check for them to lock up anyone inconvenient. If you participate in a protest, talk trash about whoever happens to be the MAGA darling of the day, or do anything else they dislike, they can accuse you and/or the event of being associated with Antifa, and job done. Maybe it won't hold up in court (for now), but that's still a threat that will help to chill dissent.
Is Antifa an actual organisation? I always thought of it as a vague lumping together of leftish people by ... well, by people like Trump.
antifa = "anti-fascist", that's it
Similar to "Internet hacker Anonymous". The media needs somewhere to place blame, so here's a fishing net.
There's been some twitter accounts! Meanwhile the KKK still exists and has never been declared a terrorist organization despite being an outright terrorist organization
I don't want to say they're harmless now, but the KKK has been more or less tame since around the 80s. They just act tough sporadically and yell now, demographics on the KKK leans real old. Probably should have been on the terrorist organization list back in the day, but now they're mostly just annoying.
I'm old enough to remember a Klan leader telling a journalist that times had changed and that klansmen recognized they needed to go about things differently to get what they wanted, and their plan was to infiltrate all levels of government, the police, justice system, etc. This was late 80's, I think.
Looks like they've succeeded.
Take that anti-fascists!
wait...
They're just fascists. For them to realize they might be the baddies, they'd have to think fascism was evil, which they don't. Neat, right?
ANTIFA is not an organization, it's a movement, an idea. Anybody who disapproves of fascism is ANTIFA, by definition, and are therefore now considered terrorists by this administration. This move is so that people can now be arrested, deported, detained, executed for speaking out against this administration. There are STILL people being held in Gitmo without trial because the state considered them terrorists. That's where we're at now with anybody who dares to speak out against Trump or joins a protest against this administration.
The most powerful act Bernie and the rest of the democrat politicians could do is loudly claim they are Antifa, to dare them to arrest them or do anything about it.
Bernie tried, but Hillary and DWS read him the riot act in 2016 and he gave up. He should have run against Trump in 2016. I blame Hillary and DWC for handing the keys over to Trump and the fascists in 2016. It hasn't been the same since.
Where is ANTIFA?
When was the last time someone saw ANTIFA?
Who are ANTIFA's leaders?
Just another scare tactic to get terrified conservatives to fear an invisible boogeyman even more than they already do.
Also, let's be clear. ANTIFA stands for Anti-Fascist. In a nation not run by actual fascists, anti-fascism is a good thing.
"Because the power of law enforcement under President Trump's leadership will be used to find you, will use to take away your money, take away your power, and if you've broken the law, to take away your freedom." -Stephen Miller
This is how they're going to prevent future elections. Any large left-wing donors can be labeled as supporters of terrorism and have their assets seized and be thrown in jail. Anybody who protests can be labeled a terrorist, anyone who says things on the Internet can be said to be 'supporting terrorism'.
After 9/11 we gave the government ridiculous domestic spying powers in order to catch terrorists and the mechanism that they built was described by Edward Snowden as turnkey totalitarianism. They've turned the key, labeled their political rivals as terrorists and are going to use the massive domestic spying tools in order to persecute and jail their political opponents.
Can we also designate HYDRA while we're at it? And what about COBRA, from G.I. Joe?
It's best we're thorough if we're in the process of labeling fictitious organizations.
He is following the Nazi playbook to a T.
Come 2026, many of us will be arrested with no due process and put into concentration camps for using the 1st amendment. The dictatorship is here and republicans REFUSE to admit it because the fascist is on their side.
We have to make a decision in the next few months. Continue to work, be a member of society, and ignore what is happening. Or cause massive disruptions that will get change started.
Sadly, i don't think the majority of the population is willing to fight until they are in the bread line.
This is the pretext they will use to start disappearing democrats. Under the PATRIOT act, someone that is designated a terrorist can be held without charges, indefinitely; and in most cases so far, be subject to torture. All the extraordinary renditions throughout the 2000s were done under this pretext. The best part is, once someone says you’re a terrorist, that’s it! No evidence needed because the protections of the law no longer apply to you, so no due process or habeas corpus. They’ll just disappear you, and it will 100% be legal.
"It wasn’t immediately clear what mechanism Trump would use to make the designation, and Antifa lacks centralized structure or defined leadership, making it unclear who or what precisely would be targeted."
Lmao this is the whole point -- right wing leaders (for now Trump, but also whatever shithead populists arise after him) can just slap the Antifa label on whoever they don't like, to justify whatever they want to do with them.
Not that different from the "terrorism" label in the early 2000s. Some people were shouting as loud as they could from as many rooftops as they could, that this label would eventually be used far more broadly than initially intended. Sure enough, look at us now. "Stopping terrorism" has been used to justify all manner of insanely not-OK shit.
Is antifa even an actual organization?
No
Antifa is not an organization, it's an ideology. To be a patriotic American is synonymous with Antifascism. MAGA on the other hand, is a terrorist organization that has hijacked the United States Government in an ongoing coup.
i'm confident i've read this headline during his last administration, right before there was a wave of right wing terrorism
There was, and many on the right were blaming Antifa because "republicans wouldnt actually do that so its antifa making us look bad"
I am expecting the same x100 this time around.
Let me fix the headline... Ahem.
Trump admits that he is pro-fascism.