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[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 10 points 6 days ago
[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 5 points 6 days ago

Are we winning yet?

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

Maybe if more Americans were vegan-v that would fix the problem.

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 116 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Reminder that the vast majority of people in the US who call themselves farmers are capitalists and often landlords, ranging from petty bourgeois try-hards that pat themselves on the back for riding a combine to those who do basically no farm work. And all of them depend on worker exploitation, usually undocumented immigrant labor because they can abuse them the most.

They are at risk of... not being profitable. They want their usual financial bailout and are going to the media for help. Part of this is reduced demand over Trump's trade war but don't forget that this is around the end of harvest season, the big time for labor, and they have been failing to find enough labor at dirt wages due to inflation and terrorizing immigrants. According to capitalism, they should be increasing prices and paying their workers more, but that would be less profitable than free money from the government.

[–] john_brown@hexbear.net 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The vast majority of farming in America is done by megacorps, the individual farmowners who still exist are a very small fraction of actual farmland and have no real impact on ag production in america. This ICE shit is going to drive them out of business and the megacorps will buy up their shit.

[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

back-to-me "Half a century ago, when Marx was writing Capital, free competition appeared to the overwhelming majority of economists to be a 'natural law'. Official science tried, by a conspiracy of silence, to kill the works of Marx, who by a theoretical and historical analysis of capitalism had proved that free competition gives rise to the concentration of production, which, in turn, at a certain stage of development, leads to monopoly. Today, monopoly has become a fact. Economists are writing mountains of books in which they describe the diverse manifestations of monopoly, and continue to declare in chorus that 'Marxism is refuted.' But facts are stubborn things, as the English proverb says, and they have to be reckoned with, whether we like it or not. The facts show that differences between capitalist countries, e.g., in the matter of protection or free trade, only give rise to insignificant variations in the form of monopolies or in the moment of their appearance; and that the rise of monopolies, as the result of the concentration of production, is a general and fundamental law of the present stage of development of capitalism."

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 35 points 1 week ago

Pretty much this, there are smaller farmers who need to do things so much more boutique that they can remain competitive (think beautiful flawless fruits, flowers, stuff like that where the individual thing is grown and prized) with the bigger industry players.

But nobody is hand harvesting fucking soybeans on their personal acreage.

And even then the boutique places probably rely on migrant workers during a harvest or planting, picking a weekend when the big players aren’t so all the workers can trickle out to the small farms picking up a couple days. It’s a whole ecosystem and these guys think they can tilt it without consequence. Which is exactly the kind of behavior I’ve come to expect from capitalists and landlords.

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago

Especially with these large monocrops like soy, they are also destroying local ecology and causing long term damage to the land

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It isn't exclusive to the US either. I remember when those farmers' protests happened in multiple Western countries, and they tried to convince people that they were poor farmers being oppressed by the government for having to lower their emissions, when in reality most of them are wealthy kulaks.

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[–] kristina@hexbear.net 57 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Rebrand tofu to Freedom Cubes to increase domestic consumption

[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It'll be extremely funny if the conservative establishment does a 180 on soybeans in an attempt to drive domestic consumption

[–] mudpuppy@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

soy increases testosterone. the reason we have so many beta males and transsexuals nowadays is people dont eat as much tofu as they did back in the 50s when things were good

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

I wouldn't be surprised if there's a media and marketing push for tofu.

[–] mactan@lemmy.ml 55 points 1 week ago (2 children)

the unceasing crowing of "they voted for this" across media is insufferable

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 58 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thought terminating moralism everywhere I look. Its like congratulations, you've assigned blame. Now what? Oh, nothing? Okay.

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

One of the grossest responses to this I've seen was on reddit-logo where one smug lib commented that these farmers should become homeless because it would do them some good. kombucha-disgust They just love showing their contempt for the homeless, and how much they fantasize of punishing those who did not vote for Copmala.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago

Just a tissue-thin veneer of assumed superiority failing to hide a nihilistic politics of punishment

[–] calidris@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

For real. Solves nothing. We all suffer from this.

BTW y'all i don't have the exact numbers but basically it seems like produce prices have jumped up like at least 35-50% over last year based on how much it's costing my sous chef to order shit. Like what would have been $800 of shit is costing $1200 now

[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 37 points 1 week ago

they could sell soybeans as a product directly to amerikans if they call it beanis

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Surely American junk food cartels can turn soy beans into some kind of unhealthy snack food Americans can chow down on like hogs?

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

They already did, long ago. Hydrolysed soy protein already makes up a large fraction of the "meat" that fast food restaurants serve. Much of what is labeled "vegetable oil" is either soybean oil or cottonseed oil. I think they use defatted soy flour (maybe a byproduct of oil production?) in food too.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 week ago

They're gonna find a way to make a tofu that's bad for you and the environment

[–] mayakovsky@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Americans, you will eat the soy and you will be happy

[–] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’ll eat the soy at least, but let’s not get carried away

[–] booty@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago

I'll be happy cause I'll be making delicious fuckin meals out of it

[–] ColombianLenin@hexbear.net 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Chinese consumers are quitting the soy estrogens that made the frogs gay

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

just start calling them 'Nazi beans' again and the manosphere will be all over them

[–] dat_math@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago (3 children)

vegan-vegans stay winning?

spoileror will this make meat cheaper too by depressing feed prices?

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 47 points 1 week ago (4 children)

lol you think anything is about to be cheaper

[–] miz@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

tofu did get significantly cheaper over the last couple years

[–] dat_math@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nominally, if not actually, yes:

[–] Red_Eclipse@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago (5 children)

got any good recipes with tofu?

[–] AF_R@hexbear.net 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

So uh, in the nicest way possible, I don’t recommend the Western methods people suggested here. Like I’m genuinely not trying to be a hater, maybe I’m the weird one but I don’t think anyone presses store bought tofu lmao.

Try Asian preparations. Tofu does, in fact, have incredible flavor. Simply slice some firm tofu into… slices, pan fry until golden, black pepper, dip into a mix of soy sauce and sesame oil and chopped green onions and crushed sesame seeds.

Make Mapo tofu, or some sundubu guk/jigae.

Crumb down some soft/med tofu, mash it into some steamed or raw broccoli, maybe a lil salt or oil dressing if your choice. Ratio is very light, think broccoli coated with tofu and not a tofu salad.

The culinary possibilities are endless and very easy and the Western culinary tradition is just not very good with it to be completely honest.

Take some miso or daenjang, tofu, and water. You got a stew going. Add whatever you like.

Take the above pan fried tofu. Some lettuce. Make a lettuce wrap with ssamjang. Some cucumbers maybe. Some kimchi.

Raw tofu wrapped in kimchi. Done.

Super versatile, I could go on and on…

Never ever skip marinating tofu. I almost always do a basic marinade of low sodium soy sauce with garlic and onion powder (or teriyaki if it's available and adding wheat as an allergen doesn't matter)

Un marinated tofu is sad shit i don't care what anybody says. It's bland curdled bean protein, it needs to soak up something

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[–] jack@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

One thing is tofu-cool

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[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago

no discount, only profit only-throw

[–] LangleyDominos@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think tofu prices would go up if soybean supply drops because it's not being planted as much. You won't see the rise until the current supply runs out. If farmers can't sell the beans to anyone, they'll just trash them.

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[–] Omegamint@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

lol. Hoping for some cheap edamame this year then but I’m sure a ton of it will end up getting composted

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do you eat the skin? Someone said I was weird for eating the skin, but I assumed most people did.

[–] Omegamint@hexbear.net 4 points 6 days ago

I put em in my mouth and use my teeth to pull the beans out, which takes off a lot of the skin too, but no I don’t eat the hulls. I think you generally don’t but if you don’t mind the texture I doubt it matters

[–] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

Chinese markets sell tofu jerky. It is cheap and good. I will be so sad to see the nacho cheese flavored version that is extra expensive and terrible for no reason

[–] Maturin@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago
[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

Soybean farmers are tired of winning!

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How long does tofu last? Might be a good year to stock up.

You can freeze it for a very long time.

Bonus points, it gives it a very fun, spongy texture that goes great with sauces and soups.

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