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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Even just renting an apartment is full of bullshit.

"The apartment is $1300 a month."

"Perfect, I make $2000 a month."

"No. You're gonna need to make $3900 a month before we will rent to you."

you're not gonna be able to afford this apartment after a few years of 10% rent increases, and we don't want the inconvenience of evicting you when that time comes

I live in the Toronto area and rent here is up to like $2600 for a 2 bedroom. Why haven’t we burned shit down? Why do we take this??

Im no leader but I’ll gladly build some gallows and die for my kid’s generation. Im also a vegetarian, but I’m willing to roast and take a bite of the billionaire just to show my conviction. I think we should actually literally do it with one to prove a point

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, the 3x salary requirements are insane when housing accounts for almost 50% of people's take home pay in most places.

[–] Paddzr@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

3x rent is pre tax, 50% is after tax.

Just a small clarification.

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[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 149 points 2 days ago (39 children)

Then there's all the expenses you didn't know about before you bought the house. If you don't have at least some DIY skills, you get to pay people a lot of money to fix things for you.

...BTW, the county just did a reassessment on your property and your property taxes have now doubled. In exchange, you get nothing. Congratulations.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 76 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yup. Oops, you need a new roof and a water heater, that will be $34,000.

[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Hey, I just did these things! Water heater i was ripped off, which cost me $2600, and the roof i actually thought was a good deal at 17k. Not fun but the roof made me happy. The water heater actually destroyed my basement by leaking out...

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[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

My issue wasn't getting pre-approved, it was being able to actually afford the mortgage amount I was pre-approved for. A lot of these companies don't give a damn if you can actually afford the mortgages they offer, because they know you'll either figure it out or go homeless trying.

[–] Ellvix@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah that was my experience as well. Mortgage companies were happy to pre approve me up to like 75% of my monthly income. Not even close to enough to buy even cheap food.

[–] Logical@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We probably live in different countries, but where I live it's more like you can't get pre-approved for anything unless you either have a large amount of money saved up, or your salary is high enough that it's far beyond what you would reasonably need to get paid to afford the mortgage.

[–] volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago (4 children)

You live in Germany don't you

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[–] devedeset@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

Fudging the numbers a bit, but let's say I'm paying $3000/mo for a mortgage. Brokers tell me I can afford $10,000/mo.

I cannot afford $10,000/mo.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The corrosive corollary to ever-rising real estate valuations is that there is no incentive to keep buildings like condos nice or neighborhoods clean, someone will buy at the inflated price anyway since they all are inflated.

So basically I feel in Canada we live in a system that pulls valuation out of thin air, produces nothing, incentivizes no one, yet allows everything.

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[–] brognak@lemmy.dbzer0.com 62 points 2 days ago (13 children)

And while we're ranting about this, can we throw PMI and whomever came up with it on the bonfire where they belong?

Your telling me that I need to pay for you to have insurance in case I default while your also charging me interest who's very purpose is to offset risk? Why am I paying to offset your risk FUCKING TWICE AND HOW IS THIS FUCKING LEGAL.

Shit infuriates me. I want all the bankers to get William Wallace on live TV, recorded and played back once a year during a mandatory viewing window so that we never, ever, forget.

[–] OmegaMan@lemmings.world 3 points 1 day ago

This is one of the reasons my wife and I took so long to get a house. I refused to pay this absolute SCAM. So we saved up to put 20% down. What a crock.

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[–] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

Going to be wild when people just give up on society and just start eating the ruling and ownership class. I tried warning these assholes if they didn’t give something. Then they would doom their existence. And now you have more people radicalizing everyday because they are being put on the streets.

[–] fakeplastic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 74 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I can't believe someone watermarked their worthless reply to a post that said the same thing more subtly and smartly.

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[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 days ago (12 children)

They don't actually need regular payments for 10-30 years. They need you deposit that down payment cash ASAP so they can lease it to billionaires and crypto exchanges.

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Actually i guess the bigger issue is that we're gonna be unemployed in 15 years due to a declining demand of human labor and then who pays back what?

Today you could afford the pay-back rate, but not in the future, and the banks are well aware of that.

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[–] NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Where y'all finding houses for 500/month with a 25k downpayment?

Seems cheap af. If you only did a 25k downpayment the mortgage would certainly be more expensive than rent where I'm at.

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