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[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They don't actually need regular payments for 10-30 years. They need you deposit that down payment cash ASAP so they can lease it to billionaires and crypto exchanges.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The deposit is to cover expenses/losses that arise out of defaults. Housing loans have been lile this forever. Not everything is a conspiracy.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

the deposit is the keep young, inexperienced and glowy-eyes people from making commitments they don't have the stamina to handle.

it happens a lot that 20 year olds want to buy a house with their new partner that they think they're gonna be together with for the rest of their lives, only to have it all fall apart 5 years later. forcing to you save up a bit before actually buying the house means you go through a lot of experiences before you actually buy a house, which makes it more likely that you'll have the far-sightedness that's needed to actually buy a house.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That’s one thing, but there’s definitely a factor of "if there's a market downturn AND we have to foreclose, we don’t want to lose too much".

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The house you're buying is the collateral for their loan. If you took out a loan for 100% of the value of the house and are immediately unable to make payments, the bank then owns the house. For them to simply break even, they'd have to sell the house for more than you paid for it to cover the various costs (lawyers, agents, etc.) If the reason you're unable to make payments is that the economy crashed and housing prices tanked as a result, the bank couldn't hope to break even on their loan.

The down payment is basically a way to ensure that in the bank's worst case scenario they still don't lose money. In theory, the bigger the down payment, the lower the risk for the bank, and the better a rate you should get on the loan. Multiple banks should all be trying to be the one to give you a mortgage, and should be trying to compete by shaving their margins as tight as possible given their risk tolerance. Of course, it doesn't always work out that way, but there's a reason for what they're doing and it's not just to screw over their customers.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They can't really ensure a positive worst case scenario. 15% is the minimum down payment where I live unless you use extra collateral, but a home could lose half its value if there's a major economic downturn.

They're just mitigating bad scenarios, not anything close to the worst case.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 0 points 23 hours ago

The worst case scenario is that the Earth is hit by a giant asteroid. At that point what does a little risk hedging in a financial transaction matter?

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago

Not necessarily young but inexperienced yes

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Idiocy.

The bank doesn't get the down payment. The person selling the house does.

You pay that person the down payment, and the bank pays them the rest.

Honestly there's loads of great reasons to hate banks but lots keep it real and avoid making up nonsense.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Banks typically ask for you to have cash in hand (deposited), or equivalent leverage, to qualify for loans in the first place.

The bank I used actively tried to get me to go with less down payment, and subsequently take out a larger loan.

But yes it is the height of idiocy to say, 'down payment deposit' when 'qualifying assets' is a more accurate term for the transactions function.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They need you deposit that down payment cash ASAP so they can lease it to billionaires and crypto exchanges.

No, this is patently false and borne of a misunderstanding. Idiocy.

When providing a mortgage, how does a bank get money to lease to billionaires and crypto exchanges?

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Banks do leverage mortgage debt. Essentially the same process, in turn.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

But how do they lease your deposit to billionaires and crypto exchanges?