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Same price, less storage. Shrinkflation at its finest.

Sony plans to release a new PS5 Slim All-Digital console with an 825GB SSD, reducing storage from the previous 1TB to optimize production costs amid rising expenses. The PS5 Slim Standard with a disc drive will retain the 1TB SSD, and the updated model is expected to launch in Europe first.

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[–] ook@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Fucking shrinkflation coming to electronics? Damn.

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[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 131 points 3 days ago (8 children)

What the fuck are we even doing at this point, as a society?

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 93 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Dealing with knock on effects of a vindictive rapist trying to dismantle the global economy because he lost a popularity contest. Possibly at the behest of his russian handlers who want to fill the power gap.

And its gonna get a whole lot worse.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago

He's a symptom more than a cause. This isn't a recent development, just a recent escalation.

[–] omarfw@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

It's post-capitalism. Capitalism was only ever capable of bringing about merit based class mobility and prosperity temporarily before the sociopaths all trickled to the top over the decades and then shut that shit down. Neo-feudalism is the inevitable result, and that will eventually be dismantled by another working class revolution.

All economies have lifespans.

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

TBH I'd just say were seeing capitalism approach its final inevitable form.

[–] omarfw@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's essentially what I'm saying. It will always end up this way. Whether we call it late stage or post capitalism or just capitalism is irrelevant. It's a system that empowers sociopathy and sociopaths will always choose to enrich themselves at the expense of the country and it's citizens.

Yeah, wasn't disagreeing with you. Capitalism is a fundamentally unsustainable system, it's always going to eventually metastasise into a situation where a very few control almost all of the resources and the vast majority are desperate and impoverished. There might be meritocratic aspects to it in its early stages, but later on skills, talents and hard work won't get you shit unless you're rich.

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[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 days ago

Transistors aren't getting cheaper, and the industry doesn't know how to deal with that. They're still in the mindset that Moore's Law has continued and will continue.

Then some clown convinced a bunch of people that he should be in charge of things, and he thought tariffs were a valid economic tool.

[–] nico198X@piefed.europe.pub 40 points 3 days ago (1 children)

the snake is eating its tail. but ppl won't rise up until they are literally dying.

so do what you can in your own life to mitigate these impacts on you and yours.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

This is really insightful and very good advice

It fucking sucks how much this point illustrates the reality of this time. But it’s upsettingly accurate

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is just classic shrinkflation. Your bottle of shampoo comes in 32 ounces, they shrink it to 24 ounces without changing the price, then later they come out with 32 ounce bottles again with a higher price and a sticker that says, "Now with 33% more!" to make it seem like they're giving you so much shampoo; and then the cycle repeats.

[–] slate@sh.itjust.works 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

No, it's not. Consoles (and technology in general) historically trend cheaper over time. Demand lowers, manufacturing cost lowers, newer tech releases, costs adjust to accommodate.

It's very abnormal that the current gen of consoles has not only not gotten cheaper yet, but has actually raisen in price. Like, very very abnormal.

Shrinkflation is a real thing, but historically it has nothing to do with consoles.

Source: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/how-low-will-the-price-of-ps4-go.1520289/

Source: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/06/are-the-ps4-and-xbox-one-really-that-expensive-historically/

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, but Moore's Law has broken down, and the things that used to allow for consoles to get cheaper over time, via new revisions, are not holding true anymore. So in lieu of those things, we've got classic shrinkflation.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

A 1TB SSD is 60€. In a shop.

They're like cheaping out 6 bucks here

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[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Node shrinks drove a lot of this. Those have stopped being such large leaps.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago (28 children)

Digital only with reduced space? What's the worst that could happen? 🤔

"Buy a bigger SSD!"

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (9 children)

I guess just be glad they're not pulling a Microsoft where you'd have to buy a propriety NVMe drive.

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[–] gigachad@piefed.social 20 points 2 days ago (5 children)

PlayStation only went downwards since the PlayStation 3 change my mind

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

I got the YLOD each time the system would engage the GPU. you're saying it went downward? That's pretty harsh.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago

All my homies hate having to pay for online services

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

PS3 was dope I loved it, but I had a huge problem when they removed the Other OS option.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago

Can’t; you are objectively correct.

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[–] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

🤔 The PS5 is 5 years old. I'll pass.

[–] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 15 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Is 825GB a common size? Is there any logic to where that being picked came from?

[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Theory 1: Because it is cheaper to manufacture.
Theory 2: It is custom made for the PS5's internal 12 data channels, allowing for faster read/write than normal.

They ~~buy~~make storage with 12 channels, and 1 Toshiba NAND chip @ 512Gib per channel. This means each SSD has 768GiB of storage, or 825GB. The max read bandwidth is 9GB/s.
math: 512Gib x 12ch = 6144Gib / 8 = 768GiB

For reference the Samsung 990 Pro 1TB has 8 channels, and 2 Samsung NAND chips @ 500Gb per channel. This means each SSD has 932GiB of storage, or 1,000GB. The max read bandwidth is 7.5GB/s.
math: (converted to Gib for uniformity) 466Gib x 2 chips = 932Gib x 8ch = 7456Gib / 8 = 932GiB

Key:
Gib = gibibit, 1024⁴ bits
GiB = gibibyte, giga/binary/byte, 1024⁴ x 8 bits
GB = gigabyte, giga(decimal)byte, 1000⁴ x 8 bits

Extra: Storage-based measurements are largely measured in binary bytes but displayed with the decimal abbreviation, hence my C: drive here was sold as 500GB, equal to 465GiB but Windows shows it as 465GB

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

Shareholder value vs executive bonus calculation.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nope.

512+256=768, 768+64=832... minus 7 for system data and general overhead maybe? That's my best guess, but that's a really odd size.

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[–] vane@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

I'm waiting for PS1 but priced like PS5 and called remaster.

[–] FurryMemesAccount@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Fuck Sony for making Europe pay for America's stupidy. And Microsoft, I think they're doing it too.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I mean it honestly looks more like a corporation using US tariffs for cover than being directly affecting it like the article was speculating.

I mean we'll have a better idea when the price is released in the US markets since current US prices for PS 5s have already increased for the US only.

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[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 days ago

the ps5 is the console I used the least. And I bought the ps3 in the middle of the ps4's generation.

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