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[–] CommCat@hexbear.net 38 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

not surprising, the German Greens are the biggest warmongers.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

On both Ukraine and Israel?

[–] trompete@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Allegedly, the Greens, in private, voiced reservations about the weapons deliveries to Israel. Scholz overruled them and I think they were placated by Israel promising not to use them for anything illegal (lol). In any fair trial they would still get the gulag of course. Definitely just ass covering, though the other parties don't even do that.

On the other hand, Habeck did the most widely disseminated and lauded post-October-7th speech, theatrically on the steps of some building at night. I don't remember exactly what he said but it was really bad. Something like: This is the worst thing since the Holocaust. This is what Germany has been preparing for, our raison ~~d'être~~ détat, finally a chance to prove our love for The Jew. Muslims need to come out RIGHT NOW and condemn this, they're NOT DOING THAT ENOUGH! We stand behind Israel no matter what!

The leader of the Green party deciding to put himself at the head of the lynch mob and give the wartime speech definitely put the Greens in front of the other warmongers then.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Maybe Brace Belden was right when he said Green parties are always the most annoying.

I don't hate Jill Stein though.

[–] trompete@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

That party never had any theoretical framework to make sense of anything, it's just moralizing. Add to this that they're mostly academics, many more-or-less successful or at least secure (highest average income of all the parties actually), the sort of people that read bourgeoise newspapers. This makes it easy to just point their holier-than-thou asses at the stupid and savage poors, the unenlightened sexist Muslims and the authoritarian foreign enemies.

I mean that happens to reformers in general but having no working class base and no theory lets you speedrun this.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

Are you speaking of the German Greens, or American?

[–] CommCat@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

The US Greens are actually pretty consistent in their anti-US Imperialism for the past few election cycles.

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

On everything. Ukraine, Israel, China, random interventions in Africa, the Middle East, etc.

[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

Green is the colour of the military uniform.

And US dollar bills.

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 29 points 2 weeks ago

Germans sad an open nazi died germany-cool

[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)
[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

He's of the founders of 'Social-National Party of Ukraine', which later rebranded as 'Freedom Party'.

[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, there's an interesting nexus in German politics between Nazism and environmental conservation. The "organic" farming movement is really freaky, even occult in some cases.

[–] boiledfrog@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

Nazis even have to ruin having a nice garden

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

The ÖDP, a right wing environmentalist party active mostly only in Bavaria was very right wing in the 80s too.

People like Springmann aren't a big deal for the Green Party either way, because what's way more important is that that party is the spearhead of bourgeois moralism, and thus is a RABID defender of anything liberals consider "good"

From the democratic state they so love and feel is the ideal and final form of government (thus being staunchly anticommunist, even with the founders being a bunch of Maoists), to the "rules-based international order" - the most reliable warmongers in the German political landscape.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is a little tangential, but I'll never forget how liberals so aggressively lionized Navalny for being opposition to Putin, making a plain fascist out to be a heroic freedom-fighter. Usually, I think they did not even bother to inquire into Navalny's politics, but those who did are so obsessed with Putin seriously being Satan, the moral floor of the entire universe, that literally any opposition must be radically progressive relative to him.

These same fuckers accused Russia of assassinating Navalny when Ukrainian intelligence said that he probably died naturally within 48 hours of the death being announced.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago

obsessed with Putin seriously being Satan

This is how a British tabloid referred to him last year:

In a fury-filled speech, the snarling tyrant, 71, attempted to [...]

An absolutely bonkers description of someone who strikes me as a boring centrist.

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

I’m going back in time to give Henry Morgenthau a nuke

[–] radio_free_asgarthr@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago

Traurig, wer wird die Untermenschen töten?

[–] dkr567@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Every single germany-cool parties are just derivatives of nazism.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

Hitlers all the way down