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[–] trompete@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Allegedly, the Greens, in private, voiced reservations about the weapons deliveries to Israel. Scholz overruled them and I think they were placated by Israel promising not to use them for anything illegal (lol). In any fair trial they would still get the gulag of course. Definitely just ass covering, though the other parties don't even do that.

On the other hand, Habeck did the most widely disseminated and lauded post-October-7th speech, theatrically on the steps of some building at night. I don't remember exactly what he said but it was really bad. Something like: This is the worst thing since the Holocaust. This is what Germany has been preparing for, our raison ~~d'être~~ détat, finally a chance to prove our love for The Jew. Muslims need to come out RIGHT NOW and condemn this, they're NOT DOING THAT ENOUGH! We stand behind Israel no matter what!

The leader of the Green party deciding to put himself at the head of the lynch mob and give the wartime speech definitely put the Greens in front of the other warmongers then.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Maybe Brace Belden was right when he said Green parties are always the most annoying.

I don't hate Jill Stein though.

[–] trompete@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

That party never had any theoretical framework to make sense of anything, it's just moralizing. Add to this that they're mostly academics, many more-or-less successful or at least secure (highest average income of all the parties actually), the sort of people that read bourgeoise newspapers. This makes it easy to just point their holier-than-thou asses at the stupid and savage poors, the unenlightened sexist Muslims and the authoritarian foreign enemies.

I mean that happens to reformers in general but having no working class base and no theory lets you speedrun this.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

Are you speaking of the German Greens, or American?

[–] CommCat@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

The US Greens are actually pretty consistent in their anti-US Imperialism for the past few election cycles.