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Soviet food distribution permitted an unprecedented access to luxury foods for ordinary workers. (www.bloomsbury.com)
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[–] 0__0@hexbear.net 41 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If this is true, it really makes you wonder what Soviet society would have looked like without the consequences of WW2. At least 40 million people more, a large chunk of industry not destroyed and not focused on endless production of equipment needed for the war etc. But westerners have not a clue of historical materialism, so they will compare the US and USSR anyway.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If Germans hadn't shat the bed we could've been living in a completely different world today. Had German communists won then all of Europe would've almost certainly had gone communist as well. Without WW2, the US would've remained a regional power and very likely would've ended up following the rest of the world towards socialism and communism.

[–] 0__0@hexbear.net 28 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Had German communists won

That, Nazi Germany and the Sino-Soviet split. Pretty much everything that could go wrong, did.

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There were a lot more things that could have gone wrong, but were successfully avoided.

[–] newacctidk@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Battle of Moscow is a BIG one

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The battle of Smolensk is more important IMO.

[–] newacctidk@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If we are counting battles that were losses but in ways that managed to severely harm the Germans to greater effect, then Sevastopol is a huge one. They slowed the fascist coalition down, wiped out most of Romania's contributions to the front, and required the Germans to dedicate more and more forces just to take a wrecked port. The defense of and around Kerch would not be as long lasting without the attrition fighting there.

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago

Battle of Smolensk is extremely important, because it completely fucked up German timetable for offensive and strained their logistics to the level, that they had to choose whether to bring their troops armaments and ammunition for a new offensive or winter clothes to avoid freezing to death in the winter. As a result, their chances for successfully taking Moscow have already been reduced to minimal.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 3 days ago

basically yeah

[–] Carcharodonna@hexbear.net 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Treats are unironically better under communism

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago

And will be again

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago

Communism = good food

[–] godlessworm@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago

NOOOO!!! how is a capitalist piggy supposed to profit under these conditions?!?

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago

But have you considered Soviet no banana

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 14 points 3 days ago

Hey I've got this book! It's in my back catalogue, interesting stuff.

[–] Vingst@hexbear.net 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

source?

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

oh updated to add the book link

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 9 points 3 days ago

Was waiting for it. Thanks!