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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 309 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

The infuriating part of the Google enshittification process is that there is absolutely nothing the user can do about it.

Literally the only thing that motivates Google is profit. Controlling side-loaded apps will almost certainly boost their profits by a infinitesimal fraction of a percent, therefore it will be done. Even if consumer uproar causes Google to back down in the short term, they'll simply implement this a few months later. Late-stage Capitalism sucks.

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 161 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (54 children)

You can stop using all Google products. Now I understand their market share on the web means they’re going to continue to shape the web.

But make no mistake. There is something, however small, that you can do. De-Google.

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 67 points 1 month ago (49 children)

I will help hand hold anyone who wants to build servers or services (to the best of my ability) to replace Google services with their own.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 63 points 1 month ago (10 children)

You can stop using all Google products.

My public school -- that my children are basically required by law to attend, remember -- is badgering me to sign a consent form so they can have Chromebooks.

This fight is a lot fucking larger than mere individual boycotts!

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 month ago (5 children)

And my kids school requires every parent to have a Google account to track progress and share information.

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 51 points 1 month ago (6 children)

De-Google

The complaint is side loading is being restricted and the only long term alternative Apple. Google already began the process of shutting down Graphene by cutting drivers out of AOSP.

https://www.androidauthority.com/google-not-killing-aosp-3566882/

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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 month ago (4 children)

You can stop using all Google products.

That may be true for you, but other people face different realities. When Google implements the sideloading block it will eventually be pushed to everyone who doesn't use a custom ROM.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 126 points 1 month ago (13 children)

Its about time an open standard happened for mobile OSes.

[–] candyman337@lemmy.world 95 points 1 month ago (4 children)

That's what Android was and they keep trying to undo that any way they can

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 49 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

We need a new one that isn't made by a for-profit company that only was good to get total market saturation before flipping the enshittification switch to maximize those profits.

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[–] axum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

We need open bootloader and drivers for phones to make any real progress on this. This is what's holding back all initiatives.

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[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 month ago (5 children)

the best outcome for the short term would be to forcibly take away android from google and give it to an independent foundation. as I heard antitrust proceedings in the usa were heading that way a few months ago

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[–] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 79 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

I don't know about anyone else, but I got into computers at a young age because it gave me a sense of control over something. I didn't understand everything, but I could do a lot of trial and error, read things and experiment, build cool things, and I shared a sense of community with some random internet strangers based on that knowledge.

In a world where we are so powerless in so many other ways, why did we insist on bringing that power dynamic into the new bright tech sphere? Why did we have to do that? (N.B. this is rhetorical questioning).

[–] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In the new Alien Earth TV show, 5 corporations basically run everything.. unfortunately I suspect thats where we are headed as a species.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There are at least two generations of us who are disappointed at the contrast between tech's possibilities as envisioned decades ago and the corporate surveillance crap we have to put up with today.

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[–] Mika@sopuli.xyz 73 points 1 month ago (4 children)

When reading cyberpunk lore, quickhacks didn't make any sense to me. Some programs that break cyberware because of backdoors, but why would people install cyberware with backdoors?

Now I look at the sad state of mobile market and, yeah ok, that makes sense.

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[–] FreddyNO@lemmy.world 71 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Lootboblin@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Easily the most disgusting company in the planet and it’s funny that their old motto/slogan was ”Don’t be evil”.

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[–] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 67 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Are you kidding me? How am I supposed to live in this damn Orwellian society that is coming?

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[–] suodrazah@lemmy.world 58 points 1 month ago (10 children)
[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)

IS THAT A FUCKING HEADPHONE JACK!?

Let's go 🔥🔥🔥

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[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 50 points 1 month ago (10 children)

The EU's been breathing down Apple's neck for them trying to do similar shit, so i find the timing kinda weird.
Plus they'd need to force-update their spyware first, i wonder how many versions of android they're willing to go back.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 22 points 1 month ago

I think the update is already installed, just waiting for the kill switch.

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[–] thespawnkiller@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I feel like this is the new normal cycle of every software company. Once they become a leader, it's never enough. It replicates the rise of billionaires. Just as the billionaires being rich beyond anything they and all of their succeeding generations could ever spend is not enough, being the industry leader and producing an amazing product that people want is somehow not enough. It always turns to control and power.

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[–] generator@lemmy.zip 45 points 1 month ago (1 children)

they just want to confirm a malicious actor didn’t develop it

So Newpipe, SmartTube, Nintendo emulators...

Clones of opensource apps bundled with ads that violates license is OK, but restricting everyone to build and test apps from source so it can test new features and report any issues is too risky for the user

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[–] flemtone@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago (44 children)

Already using GrapheneOs on my phone, so fuck Google.

[–] themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Wait until Google locks the bootloader.

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[–] bluecat_OwO@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago (5 children)

now it's just a race for the giant conglomerates to make the worst decisions for consumers

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[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago (15 children)

As shitty as M$ is, it would have been nice to see Windows phone become moderately successful and be a third primary mobile os.

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[–] humanoidchaos@lemmy.cif.su 36 points 1 month ago (8 children)

I came here specifically to ask about alternatives to Android now that google is becoming too abusive in the relationship.

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And they can suckle upon my peener.

I'll go to Graphine or something else before I let the company for whom "don't be evil" was too bold a statement dictate my fuckin' choices.

I already ditched Windows. Can't be that hard to cut Google out too.

[–] traceur301@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Graphene has locked itself to google hardware, and google can cripple them at any point by stopping bootloader unlocks. We need to go deeper, or aim higher as it were

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[–] Amoxtli@thelemmy.club 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (4 children)

What's my better option at this point?

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[–] Bongles@lemmy.zip 31 points 1 month ago (9 children)

I’m bothered that big companies, especially tech right now, no longer see their customers as people they need to please to stay in business, but instead as something they’ll inconvenience and squeeze as much as they can possibly get away with.

They all got to where they are making, at one point, amazing products. Now? Fuck making windows useful, we can throw ads and AI at you every place we can think of. Fuck all of the parts of Android that made it stand out, we tell you what to install. You don’t want all of your data scraped and sold? Fuck you, there’s 3 of us and we’re all doing it. In fact we’ll never stop finding new ways to harvest data.

Phones have basically stagnated entirely in the US. Sure you get moderately better chipsets, but what else? AI? I haven’t had a phone struggle with anything in… maybe 10 years. Instead features that people didn’t use enough just get removed.

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[–] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Year of the Linux phone, I guess.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 20 points 1 month ago (5 children)

google is pissed people were deleting that spying app on android phones, plus thier constant attack on adblocking on youtube wasnt working to well. since samsung and iphones pretty much walled in thier os, why not google.

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[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fuck them. I have a guitar a pocket watch and a wind uo radio. Everything have is a nicety.

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