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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 73 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Every day that monologue from the Matrix where Agent Smith compares Humanity to a Virus is more relevant.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Climate crisis is just the world having a fever, to kill us 🤒

[–] lowleekun@ani.social 43 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

I mean that kinda deflects from the fact that it is only a handful of big industries and our artificial "need" for infinite growth that not only kills us, but a majority of life. Meanwhile, best we can do is participate "critically". Thanks, i hate it.

Edit: I just checked and the 10 biggest oil and gas-companies have a market share of $3600 Billion. When have last talked about destroying these companies that have evidently fucked us hard. It honestly is a crime that no one shoots their CEOs on a daily bases.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If we as humans hadn't invented agriculture and lived purely as hunters and gatherers, the planet coul only support 1-10 million people.

We have spent the past 10000 years fine-tuning how to abuse and exploit this planet, without consideration. It's not the companies skimming the cream who are to blame. It's the whole idea of us feeling entitled to just have whatever the planet has ~~to offer~~

[–] Damage@feddit.it 8 points 2 weeks ago

Unfortunately, more populous societies are more successful in dominating the others, so natural selection brought us to this point. Problem is we developed technology faster than our genetics could adapt.

[–] chaosCruiser 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I guess one thing we can do is document the causes of our demise so that maybe the post apocalyptic historians can warn the survivors.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Were warning everyone right now with the most sophisticated communication network ever imagined and it's doing fuck all.

[–] chaosCruiser 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

As far as sci-fi literature is concerned, religious cults could be a “solution“. Just look how WH40k and Dune approach AI. Also, those cults solved one problem, but caused a long list of new problems, so…

[–] brrt@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago

There won’t be another technologically advanced society on earth to repeat our mistakes. All the easily accessible resources needed have long been turned into infrastructure that will degrade into unusable waste by the time the planet has healed and surviving humans would be capable of making use of it again.

[–] remon@ani.social 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Meh, cyanobacteria managed the same thing without industry or capitalism. It just happens sometimes.

[–] lowleekun@ani.social 9 points 2 weeks ago

That is a pretty weird reaction to something that can be prevented and i am not sure how it helps. But i guess ignorance and apathy are a good way to cope with hiw the world has turned out.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Lots of viruses don't kill their host, and in return we dont try to eradicate those but they are casualties of an immune response, so the metaphor is still apt imo.

[–] saimen@feddit.org 14 points 2 weeks ago

It's a better image than "We have to save the planet!".

It's not about the planet, dumbass! It's about us, human lives! The planet doesn't care if it is a bit warmer or if there is human life on it.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

More like cancer or metastasizing tumor growth.

[–] abfarid@startrek.website 60 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah-yeah-yeah. What about the economy though?!

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago

I'm also seeing a troubling lack of consideration for shareholders too 🤔

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Well everyone and everything dying will be terrible for the economy long term. But the more important question is: will line go up this quarter?

[–] rammer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

Of course it will. It doesn't have to have anything to do with the "real" world. And it hasn't for a while now. Because the line must go up.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I see your:

grim calculations for humanity if climate change and growth in population and consumption fueled by cheap energy goes unchecked.

And raise you a:

Number must go up‼️

[–] SebaDC@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 6 points 2 weeks ago

You are going to be SO tired of all that "winning"...

[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wouldn't that be "most" at the 6Billion point?

[–] neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

That would probably fix our emissions as well.

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Earth fixing itself.

"The planet is fine. The people are fucked."

George Carlin

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

I just wish it only extended to humans.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Being working poor and knowing you'll be part of that statistic...

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago

Knowing your kids will be feels worse.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

How many of those deaths are suicides?

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If the system collapses most of them will be starvation, exposure, or murder.

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.vg 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You forgot the rampant diseases.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah. Didn’t want to get in the weeds over such a depressing subject. First to go will be those dependent on medication and medical life support for survival, like insulin. Then next will be those without access to clean water, they’ll pick up pathogens and die soon when coupled with the lack of food. Then lack of food and exposure to cold and excessive heat will eat away the rest, along with infections and other diseases, and attacks by other humans. I don’t know that I ever understood peppers because the vast majority of them seem to assume some form of society would re-emerge, but if society ever collapses to the point where one actually needs to hole-up and wait out whatever calamity happened then there won’t be a civilization left. They’ll live long enough to die of an infection or other illness, or their supplies run out. Fuck knows that nobody will likely survive in a group containing the skills to build farmland and have enough animals like a 1600’s village to survive. Think of the support network they had even then that wouldn’t exist. From smiths to charcoal suppliers, sheep and wool, draft animals, etc. Peppers would survive to be the king atop a dead planet.

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.vg 1 points 2 weeks ago

If the climate isn't stabilized, farming isn't going to work out (and neither is pastoralism). The unpredictable seasons affect domesticated ecosystems as well as wild ones, that's already starting. Gathering is going to be very tricky too. Overall, these human populations, even if they survive, would have a larger chance of dying due to bad unexpected thing, which looks like extinction over a longer timeline as the isolated populations die out. And if anyone mentions hunting, laugh at them.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

I plan to die violently pooping at something or someone

[–] Gowron_Howard@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Who will do all of the work for the ruling class then? Not them certainly.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

important question: will i be one of those six billion

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago

Are you wealthy?

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I hope to be dead before the water wars start.

[–] rammer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 weeks ago

They've already started. But they've been happening where it doesn't matter much to Western media.

Except Israel-Palestine. Where water has been used as a weapon. But has been brushed aside by other issues.