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Bill C-5, Indigenous resistance, and the authoritarian turn at the heart of the settler state

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[–] leastaction@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Rooted in Enlightenment-era thinking, liberalism positions individual political rights and equality as the foundation of a free and just society.

I think we've seen enough of liberalism to know this is just marketing slop. Liberalism is the belief that profit-maximizing capitalism is compatible with democracy.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Marketing slop from who? There is no Liberalism authority.

Those are literally just the foundational ideas it's had since Voltaire or therabouts. Before anyone had thought of capitalism or whatever it's opposite might be.

[–] octoham@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

honestly i don't like carney, he just seems like a harper conservative to me, but the overton window shifted so much he's head of the liberals now

[–] Amuletta@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

While I agree, that's an embarrassingly low bar to pass:

[–] Tm12@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not a fan so far, but didn’t vote red. Economist suit acts like an economist suit.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Also not a fan so far. Feels like a wolf in sheeps clothing

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

I had hoped he would stick closer to the promises. Not surprised he's gone this route, just disappointed. Glad I didn't vote red.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yes. Carney and future governments will be able to bypass environmental law and try to bypass Indigenous treaty rights (lawsuits will determine if they can if they try).

However, I do think that we the people still have the opportunity to knock some sense into this government to actually espouse the 'values' Carney campaigned on, without needing to lean on C-5 too much. Call and write your MP.

The fact we can do something about it doesn't mean the feds actions amount to a matter of personal responsibility on us failing to stop it. It means not giving up, and standing up to make sure the Indigenous populations get their fair share for using their land, and benefit just as much as every Canadian from these projects.

[–] leastaction@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Call and write your MP

Right, because this has always worked so well.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

For a number of issues like Gaza, the writing is on the wall. It's a matter of time before Canada acts, how quickly and what type of things will be based on how much Carney, Anand and MPs hear from constituents, so raise your voice.

Be out on the street too, where you are able, of course. Nihilism isn't helpful. It's not useless. Collective action from Canadians have had US governors and senators come to us virtually on their knees begging to stop the boycott. During Parliament's break is the best time to put ideas in MPs' heads, before it's in session and they get in the heat of the moment.

There's still time to fix Bill C-2 or kill it entirely when the legislative session resumes.

On C-5, no concrete injury has occured yet in terms of Indigenous people getting screwed over from a project. Yes, the legislation that is in place was very, very much rushed with many things left unclarified. Get your say in, ahead of the corporate lobbyists, they're being paid to cozy up to MPs and ministers.

The digital services tax was stopped at the last minute for an awful reason, that doesn't mean we still can't call for the government to change course and not move ahead with the repeal in Legislature, or reimplement it in a different way, as much as that sounds like a long shot.

[–] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

I sort of expected this, but it's a shame my vote is essentially dirt since I live in a district that never flips.

[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I voted for him and I’m ok with him. Economically, if trump is going to threaten us then we need to act differently than we have in the past. We do need nation building projects that help us break our reliance on the US. We also need to reduce immigration because of the continued housing shortage. So with reduced immigration and reduced sales to the US and increased spending austerity is then needed. The era of spend spend spend is over.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Or we could tax the corporations and the wealthy properly.

[–] k_rol@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The wealthy, yeah I agree but the corporations, it's a bit tricky right now as we don't want them to all go to the us either. That's exactly what Trump wants. I don't have a solution but it can't be as simple as taxing more.

We're in a much more complicated situation.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Tired of hearing the excuse that taxing corporations will make them leave.

[–] k_rol@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

I'm tired of saying it. I'm also not saying they should not pay taxes, it's just that the solution is not that simple.