chapotraphouse

You fucking watched this video, and your takeaway was "Mamdani fucking loves cops now"? I don't get it. Are we just accepting the framing from a self-identified MAGA Twitter account now? Did you make this meme? I'm seriously confused here. This "Pivot to Police" is literally right-wing framing being used, right now, against Mamdani:

The question was: "You know, there's been a lot of talk here today about Andrew Como, and apparently, the person who wants to become the Mayor of New York, is now going to be calling on you and others to do something about increasing the number of police, not just accepting the number of police that are there now. But also to keep up the SRJ, which was responsible last week for going after the shooter last week on Park Avenue, and I wonder, you know obviously hes trying to go after a weak spot on you. I wonder if you would like to respond to that because that's going to be his campaign pitch."

His answer was:

1. Why are 200 cops leaving a month? Forced over time.
2. Why do they have so much forced over time? We're making cops do things they shouldn't do.
3. What are the jobs cops shouldn't be doing? Standing around the MTA, answering tourists questions about the MTA. Answering 200,000 mental health calls every year.

These are the exact kinds of policies that grew out of the Defund the Police movement in 2020.

What's the deal here? The obvious way you fund this is by cutting police budgets and shifting that money into human services like the ones he's referring to. Did you actually think Mamdani was going to abolish the NYPD? He would be the fucking head of the NYPD, for Christ sake. Even still, the right-wing media is trying to skewer him for his answer here. Somehow, they've come all the way around to being pro-defunding the fucking police because he outlined changes to the NYPD that could only be achieved through taking some of their annual funding, which won't even be actual cuts, as we've seen before, but instead a pause in budget increases, or a 0% increase on the yearly budget.

From outside the US, i think people need to log off. He's literally not "done" anything, there's no falling for anything (yet). But it certainly doesn't seem very useful to panic every time he shows that he's... a demsoc. I never saw anyone pretend he was anything more than that.

Your elections are pretty fucked, best you can expect is to educate and agitate, and find relatively better footholds locally by improving local laws and conditions, as best as you're able. All the political theater of election cycles and all the media stuff before someone is elected, that's all pretty dumb imo. It's theater, it's media strategy, it's fucking tiring and it's not very productive to obsess about.

Taking some questions and photos with Warren is "campaigning with her" now? He's the democratic candidate for New York City, he's accepting bended knees from the radlibs not the other way around, what policies or talking points has he changed because of her

"Allegedly upset that NYPD is losing 200 officers a month"

Then provide the MOTHERFUCKING QUOTE YOU WRECKER FUCKS, wtf is this destiny-style ass vague accusation horseshit?

The progressive senator from Massachusetts swung by New York City on Monday to pay homage to Mamdani, who overwhelmingly won the Democratic nomination for mayor in June — but still hasn’t secured endorsements from many of New York’s party leaders.

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Bro, you don't NEED their endorsements! There were like 2-3 other candidates whose votes will go to you in the main election!! You fucking won the primary, even being labeled a dirty socialist! THE MASSES WANT SOCIALISM IT'S NOT A SCARY WORD ANYMORE!!!

New mega just dropped.

This is some dumb shit and I didn't need to see it. Fuck you for posting it.

maybe he's upset the NYPD is only losing 200 officers a month and wants to bump that number up?

The contents of this tweet are disturbing IF true but I’m not going to take this at face value, lots of bullshit flying around.

The CIA doesn't need cointel pro anymore. The state of the post-Bernie left is that if anyone left of center so much as wins a primary we just start tearing ourselves apart.

Struggle session feels silly here. I think we can give limited, critical support to genuine Demsocs as being the better of the shit options, without believing they'll be good in all respects.

Mamdani significantly > Cuomo? Heck yeah. Actual socialist significantly > Mamdani? Also heck yeah.

Just leaving myself a reminder to read this later when it's passing 100 comments

Very upset that both people I asked about the NYPD union negotiations refused to answer my question. SOMEONE GIVE ME AN ANSWER YOU COWARDS

If you don't, it means that I am correct in my assessment thay Mamdani cannot freeze the police budget, and he probably knows that.

did he actually say something bad or is this just fatalistic doomerism?

Here's a constructive question for Hexbears who don't believe in making electoral politics a core part of their strategy. (Disclosure: I am one of these users)

How do you incrementally increase the power of your movement, without just trying to set off The Big Uprising that brings the whole bourgeois state down? You need strong organizations or federations or alliances to do this, and you need a lot of preparedness, contingency plans, and luck. What is there to do in the meantime besides just take long shots at the big prize, and what do we do to meaningfully increase our chances of making the long shots work?

If electoral campaigns don't bring lasting gains of people and energy to the movement, what does?

Lotta Charlie browns in this thread who are real sure they’re gonna kick the football this time!

Anyone need a coffee? Was thinking of taking a bit of a break and popping out to grab one.

Socialist Majority Caucus wants this. They didn't "fall" for anything.

where did that bring you?

Are we DSA posting? Its hilarious that dunking on SM has left containment, bring on the Groundwork memes

who knew that this is what happens when you put faith in a Democrat? we've never seen anything like this before. usually the grassroot candidate goes way left after getting elected, not the other way around! anyway, let's make sure that this strategy gets replicated across the country...