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[–] ratboy@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You seriously need to calm down and quit fucking calling people wreckers. Having a critical opinion of a politician is not wrecker shit. The vast majority of us who have a skeptical eye towards him are not opposed to him winning and would be glad to see some real progressive policies enacted. Calling people wreckers, stupid, doomers, etc. is not constructive and tbh your back and forth about this recently just looks like a huge tantrum and not worth listening to no matter how much evidence you present to people.

I know that you poured a lot of yourself into his campaign, and I do hope that he wins, I think he's got it in the bag. But, it is disheartening to see that right after he won the primary, it appears that he has weakened his position publicly, in interviews, which are the only things that the general public will going to go by.

That said, I agree that this post in particular is very uncharitable and there is no evidence backing it's claim.

I do have genuine questions that you would probably be best equipped to answer. How will Mamdani circumvent the conditions of the NYPD union contract, that I believe is currently under negotiation, in order to ensure that their funding is frozen? This does not seem feasible to me. I linked some of the ratified proposals that NYPD won in their last contract elsewhere and I can link it for you if you'd like.

Next question: you keep talking about him making radlibs bend the knee, which ones are you talking about specifically? Other politicians like AOC/Bernie/Warren, liberal voters in NYC, or the business interests that he just met with?

[–] Bronstein_Tardigrade@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do people really not remember the NYDP shadowing and doxing De Blasio's daughter when he started talking about cutting their budget? There is a reason politicians fear (literal not figurative) taking on the NYPD, it's budget is larger than the military of some countries.

[–] ratboy@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

I dont remember that actually. Regardless though, his position that he will just freeze their budget is actually not feasible because of union contract negotiations. They are very likely bargaining right now and bargaining could end before he is even elected. If there are any wage/benefit/departmental increases in that contract, they are still going to get it. As far as I know, unless the city looses a huge chunk of funding suddenly (exigent circumstances), and the city can prove that they can't allocate resources to the NYPD from elsewhere, then the city will need to honor the contract.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You seriously need to calm down and quit fucking calling people wreckers

If someone posts unsubstantiated tweets by a bullshit artist, then don't whine when they get called a wrecker

All I want are the quotes and videos proving these accusations, apparently demanding ANY level of due diligence is out of bounds for the anti-Zohran crowd, why is that? If Zohran is such an obvious bust then it should be easy, you see anybody coming to AOC's defense these days?

PULL OUT THE RECEIPTS

[–] ratboy@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago

In the news mega you called essentially everyone who disagreed with you stupid, a wrecker, a doomer probably more insults. This instance, yeah, I get it, but this behavior is not contained to this one misleading post.

I dont need to pull out receipts about this Warren shit because I didn't post it. And many of us are not anti - zohran, we are critical of him. It's bad faith that you accuse us of that even when we tell you REPEATEDLY. Take a step back on that, take him out of the equation and try to look at your aggressiveness towards anyone who has a different opinion than you.

Now, I asked some questions in good faith and am trying to be straight forward but also not slap fight with you. Are you able to answer those questions or will you, like you accuse others, not be able to provide answers on that and just ignore them? The questions come from a place of skepticism but they are genuine

[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Having a critical opinion of a politician is not wrecker shit.

That's different from making claims without substantiating them with actual evidence. A meme isn't proof, this isn't facebook. No investigation, no right to speak

[–] ratboy@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Regardless of investigation or not, having an opinion on a person is not wrecker shit. there are several other things that he has done that has formed negative opinions on him. This specific post, yeah, I can see that being wrecker shit. The person I was replying to has used that term over and over to insult people in different posts