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Every day we get closer to an Orwellian society. The United Kingdom may already be one.

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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 hours ago

The EU is using genocide censorship as an excuse to abort all "freedom" laws. A hillarious twist.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 49 points 1 day ago (7 children)

US big tech is influencing europe to do the same as the us, and opening them up for absolute power.

the only way out is to stop being US vassals.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 11 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

No. This is a very naive & dated way of thinking about the world of today. We don’t really have distinct borders distinguishing politicians at that level.

It’s more accurate to say the Davos group is ruling all western nations. What looks like separate world leaders and parties is actually one world-spanning organization of those with power. And what’s worse, they’re all Nazis and technocrats.

The Nazis learned from WW2. If you invade a country, the people fight back. If you groom and install/bribe your own people into leadership positions, the people just let it happen.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

big US capitalists are the ones ruling western nations (and the third world, through neocolonialism). other western oligarchs might play a role.

in this case, europe doesn't have its own big tech that compares to the US's, and i don't think they are allowed to.

i don't think they are relying on a formal, yearly summit to do so either. the real politics are made behind close doors, and i doubt there's a public list anywhere of the people coming to agreements on how to direct their power.

i will agree they are fascists who learned their lesson from nazi mistakes.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

They don’t need their own tech companies. Europe has its own oligarchs. They’re the problem.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

being independent is better, but oligarchs are a real problem aren't they. we really gotta figure this shit out.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm not going to defend the US and it's tech oligarchs, they are all shit, but the way things are going, the EU and the UK are currently in way worse shape than the US in terms of all this 1984 bullshit.

No country is safe from this anymore, and we may very well be looking at the worse time to be alive when it comes to privacy, regardless of where you live.

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[–] onion@sopuli.xyz 27 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The UK ain't part of the EU mate

[–] menemen@lemmy.ml 5 points 13 hours ago

It's worse in Germany.

[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 3 points 15 hours ago

France is doing the exact same shit as the UK with age verification...

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Not officially, but the same powerful monied interests control both.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago

the EU is eyeing similar rules

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 day ago (23 children)

Old enough to remember how Europeans smugly thought that they lived in some sort of an enlightened and free society.

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[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 94 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Almost the entire western world is going authoritarian. Very worrying trend. It has to be stopped.

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[–] banazir@lemmy.ml 82 points 1 day ago (1 children)

From the fact Britain produced Orwell, Huxley's Brave New World, and Alan Moore's V for Vendetta, I figure the UK has always been some shade of "Orwellian".

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