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Every day we get closer to an Orwellian society. The United Kingdom may already be one.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 53 points 2 days ago (4 children)

US big tech is influencing europe to do the same as the us, and opening them up for absolute power.

the only way out is to stop being US vassals.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No. This is a very naive & dated way of thinking about the world of today. We don’t really have distinct borders distinguishing politicians at that level.

It’s more accurate to say the Davos group is ruling all western nations. What looks like separate world leaders and parties is actually one world-spanning organization of those with power. And what’s worse, they’re all Nazis and technocrats.

The Nazis learned from WW2. If you invade a country, the people fight back. If you groom and install/bribe your own people into leadership positions, the people just let it happen.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

big US capitalists are the ones ruling western nations (and the third world, through neocolonialism). other western oligarchs might play a role.

in this case, europe doesn't have its own big tech that compares to the US's, and i don't think they are allowed to.

i don't think they are relying on a formal, yearly summit to do so either. the real politics are made behind close doors, and i doubt there's a public list anywhere of the people coming to agreements on how to direct their power.

i will agree they are fascists who learned their lesson from nazi mistakes.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They don’t need their own tech companies. Europe has its own oligarchs. They’re the problem.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

being independent is better, but oligarchs are a real problem aren't they. we really gotta figure this shit out.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm not going to defend the US and it's tech oligarchs, they are all shit, but the way things are going, the EU and the UK are currently in way worse shape than the US in terms of all this 1984 bullshit.

No country is safe from this anymore, and we may very well be looking at the worse time to be alive when it comes to privacy, regardless of where you live.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I highly doubt it's the worse time. There used to be no concept of privacy you lived in a small town everyone knew everything and you lived in a one room house and familys had on bed for everything. There would have been no privacy at all.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 2 days ago

That's an opinion lol

We deff have it better now with corpo and goverment replacing family and the hood

[–] tantamoq@feddit.nl 5 points 2 days ago

As a US citizen, pray for us 🙏

[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The olygarch's have ruined everything again?

[–] Toribor@corndog.social 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The tree of freedom must periodically be watered with the blood of tyrants.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Also the problem with wealth. No more overthrowing the rich happening.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago