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[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 48 points 1 month ago (5 children)

China, with its authoritarian government, is less susceptible to the petroleum-obsessed dogma fueling the Republican party. It does not have prominent leaders like US politician Marjorie Taylor Greene, who previously warned that Democrats are trying to “emasculate the way we drive” by advocating for electric vehicles. Rather, China’s leaders are seeing green – not in the environmental sense, but in a monetary one.

thonk Careful, if this analysis goes any deeper it might run into actual explanations.

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Authoritarianism is when you checks notes arent corrupt.

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 33 points 1 month ago

Authoritarianism is when you see the fucking writing on the wall

[–] Sebrof@hexbear.net 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

China, with its ebil authoritarian government isn't captured by the genocidal drive to destroy all life on earth. And that's why they're unfree.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

“The fact you value your own life is OPPRESSING YOU.” - words spoken by the utterly deranged.

Everyone’s suddenly got the ACLU on speed dial the nanosecond someone starts talking about protecting the environment.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

authoritarian

all this word means is "any use of state power I don't like". it is just a way to say something is bad

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago

It seems like the author of the piece is dealing with some cognitive dissonance. I'm assuming they're in favor of renewable energy but unable to let go of the kneejerk China=authoritarian=bad and is casting around for an explanation that doesn't require changing that view.

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

emasculate the way we drive

Shut the fuck uuuuuuuuup matt-jokerfied

[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wonder if the editor has them add in "with its authoritarian government", because nowhere in that paragraph does it talk about centralized state power.

[–] Sebrof@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

China: does good

Western journalists: yes, but have you considered bad?

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 39 points 1 month ago (3 children)

In one domain, AI, the US has far outpaced any other nation

biaoqing-copium

Since returning to the White House in January, Donald Trump has handed out huge wins to the coal and oil and gas industries. This is no great surprise. Trump has long been supportive of the US fossil fuel industry and, since his reelection, has appointed several former industry lobbyists to top political positions.

Lol, this isn't a partisan issue when the entire government is taking lobbying money from those industries. Even the Green New Deal, if that had ever materialized, is still too little too late.

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago

the Green New Deal, if that had ever materialized, is still too little too late

The IRA, which is what we got instead of the GND, was blasted by environmental groups at the time for being a "climate suicide pact" because of how much it opened public lands to new drilling. The US is lashed to the mast of the fossil fuel industry and both will go down together along with planetary habitability.

[–] Cimbazarov@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

And even then theyre leading in AI in brute force metrics like amout of money spent and data centers built

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In one domain, AI, the US has far outpaced any other nation

Really because i haven't heard ANYTHING about actual advances in AI since deepseek btfo'd literally everything the west has been doing.

The ONLY ai "news" ive seen since then is now you can pay $300 a month to maybe see Grok's avatar's boobs

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The ONLY ai "news" ive seen since then is now you can pay $300 a month to maybe see Grok's avatar's boobs

Wouldn't be surprised if Elon got millions from this and it was just this PNG: body-without-sex-organs

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

Hadn't noticed the nick land doodle watermarked on the toy

[–] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

The entire AI industry is massively unprofitable right now, completely propped up by investor hype and news articles continuing to claim that superintelligence is right around the corner. The actual real world output is... uh, some tech startups are now shitting out unmaintainable proof-of-concept codebases for their dogshit business plans slightly faster than before? Companies paying $200/month/head to make their developers pretend to use Copilot? The only people consistently hyped around it are the capitalists desperate to remove labor from their equations altogether to deal with the rate of profit falling, and much like previous attempts at mass outsourcing it's just going to blow up in their faces when they have to re-hire a bunch of people to unfuck their efforts to not have to hire those people in the first place.

[–] GiantSpoonWielder@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 1 month ago (3 children)

"Rather, China’s leaders are seeing green – not in the environmental sense, but in a monetary one."

So a government that clearly communicates its intent to clean up its environment and ensure long term environmental health, and continues to advance in this field faster than its comparatively aggressive goals is just greedy, got it. It's not that the sane people in the world want to disconnect energy production from destructive practices and that drives innovation and development. No, evil China is even more obsessed with money than the republicans!

These writers would crow day and night about the economic benefits of a 'green new deal' if their politicians were capable of rejecting the interests of their masters.

And the shifting of blame for the American government's suicide pact with oil and gas entirely onto the Republicans is fascile. As if the democrats blocking any meaningful change or environmentally sound development through their rotating cast of spoilers they keep in the party isn't serving the same capitalist interest.

Pathetic jingoism.

[–] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

'not only are they doing the right thing, the worst of all is that they are also making money that way' - The Economist on china's authoritarian anti capitalism

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

If a green new deal was politically possible it'd be as part of some milquetoast soc dem's policy and these exact same authors wouldn't be crowing over the benefits, they'd be constantly fear mongering over how much it "costs"

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

See, this means that libs don't have to have a crisis of conscience for this, because sure, China is making things better, but they have the wrong motivation. It's much better to have correct motivation than beneficial results, even if that results in the literal destruction of the planet. The means justify the ends after all!

[–] Deadend@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

I’m not reading. But I’m assuming the answer is that America is only focused on short term and oil is good short term so why bother with long term thinking.