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[–] tal@lemmy.today 122 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I'm fairly sure that California having cage-size mandates does the opposite of driving up egg prices outside California.

They'll drive up California egg prices, sure. But California egg prices have been higher than egg prices outside California. That's because it's not legal to sell eggs produced in other states if the producer there doesn't produce to California's requirements, which eliminates California consumers as competition for those eggs. If you have a shortage in California production


as happened earlier


what happens is that prices in California go much more expensive, but prices outside California don't rise as much as they otherwise would, because California consumers aren't competing for the available supply.

California's cage-size mandates may be a bad idea for California egg consumers, but they shouldn't be driving up prices outside of California a la the Trump administration's claims.

I suppose maybe it's a media strategy, the aim being to fix the idea that it is California's fault in the minds of people elsewhere.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago

How dare you use math and statistics the way they're mean to be used. I'm going to anagram the word used and retroactively sue you. You're sued!

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Lots of people outside of California are actually deeply jealous, don't want to admit it, and there is an entire industry around bashing California and Californians as a result.

I think Bill Maher is right - a whole lot of Americans want to be Californians.

[–] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I suppose maybe it's a media strategy, the aim being to fix the idea that it is California's fault in the minds of people elsewhere.

It's a media strategy, all right. Only the aim is simply trying to distract you from the Epstein files.

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[–] hydrashok@sh.itjust.works 85 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Anything to distract from Epstein, eh?

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

He really is getting desperate. He already admitted that he actually is on the Epstein list by claiming that any entry mentioning him must be forged...

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Also, inflation is creeping up and blaming California gets the base excited

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

Well his previous strategy of continually whining about how everyone keeps talking about Epstein, while saying really damning offhanded comments about the subject wasn't working very well...

[–] PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works 69 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“It is one thing if California passes laws that affects its own State, it is another when those laws affect other States in violation of the U.S. Constitution,” Rollins said.

The absolute hypocrisy. From the party that happily allows one state sue a doctor in another state for violating their anti-choice doctrine.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Because you can only raise chickens in California. 🙄

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 week ago

The craziest thing about egg prices is that Donald J. Trump is in the Epstein files.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"See! It has nothing to do with the tariff wars I caused." - President TACO

[–] DrunkEngineer@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Trump should focus on Ohio instead:

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Nobody wants to talk about Ohio

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

But that would mean the severely gerrymandered Republican supermajority did something wrong. Can't blame libruls for shit Ohio did.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Nobody tell him that egg prices dropped dramatically in March and have stayed down, I guess

[–] Dearth@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Huh i always thought the neoliberal Republican party was in favor of the free market. Why don't other states simply support their local egg producers and sell cheaper eggs from unhealthy chickens

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago

What they claim and what they actually support has always been different. They hate the free market. They want to pick the winners, and fill their own pockets.

[–] Chaotic_Altruist@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago

It's fine if they're hiking prices for profit and to screw the average consumer. It's an issue if they raise prices to support a "woke agenda". The problem is the prices are being raised to better the lives of the chickens and Republicans hate that.

[–] Thief@lemmy.myserv.one 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I will never understand the economics of MAGA and how they interpret data. Its always totally illogical.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

It helps to start with the answer you want and work backwards from there.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago

That's the point. Stop trying to understand it

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Unconstitutional? WTAF.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The most straightforward way to keep egg prices low is to have chickens. Since not everyone in D.C. has the space for chickens let's rip out that patio in the Rose Garden and put like a hundred of the fuckers in there.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

At this point, everyone in the capitol are chickens, but I don't want their eggs...

[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's absolutely insane that people can't keep well maintained animals on their own property when just anyone can have uneutered cats and dogs, exotic bird, pigeons, rats and even cockroaches. A city nearby has voters opposing urban chickens because:

  1. They don't want their kids to see chickens getting butchered next door.

  2. The roosters will be loud and wake everyone up.

Meanwhile my neighbour's car alarm goes off three times a day and the dog barks all night.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

My city deals with that by limiting the number of hens (to such a small amount I don't think it's worth trying to do meat birds) and completely disallowing roosters.

I'm OK with these restrictions, I don't want to deal with a whole chicken farm on 1/8 acre next door and fuuuuuuck roosters.

Interestingly, we are allowed to have goats but you must have two or three, because apparently goats are so social they need thier own kind or they get depressed

[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Totally, regulations are key. I'm not advocating for an Ace Ventura situation.

Where I used to live allowed urban chickens, too. There was a rooster who kept escaping into the lane right when I left for work. He was suicidal because he kept trying to get me to run him over.

Not all breeds have loud roosters, I found out, and with traffic and schools nearby I never really heard them.

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[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 week ago

But then it would smell like bird shit outside the oval office as well.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If headlines can't even mention the battery cages this lawsuit is actually about at all, what are we doing here? Battery cages are horrifying and just the tip of cutlery

If the industry ever tells you that they treat anyone "humanely" remember that they are arguing to remove the smallest sliver of requirements. There is still a massive amount of cruelty allowed in other areas too (for instance chick culling, forced molting, etc.) and they are still angry on any requirement

There also has already been a lawsuit on other provisions in Prop 12 that went up to this current SCOTUS in 2023 and was rejected.

This almost certainly isn't even actually about the cost of this particular law to the industry. The latest cost changes are almost all driven by bird flu. No, the thing they fear far more than a tiny increase in their costs is that we'll actually start waking up to this industry. They worry Prop 12 will inspire more action. The more we talk about how things actually look, the more they worry that they'll become like the fur industry where people wake up and stop buying en masse over its cruelty

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

People decided to care about the ethics of fur farming after synthetic materials made fur obsolete. The majority isn't going to object to the cruelty of factory farming unless they already have a replacement for factory-farmed eggs.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

There already are a bunch out there and increasing. Everything from aquafaba as a binder to things like Just Egg (both cooks & bakes like eggs from Mung beans), and even starting to see some newer companies using precision fermentation to make plant-based eggs with identical proteins to chicken-based eggs

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[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Dear California,

The artillery goes here.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I looked it up just for the heck of it and learned he has a fucking street named after him near it. 🤮 Hope I live to see all these places named after neo Hitler changed back.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 week ago

Don't look over here (Epstein files), look over there (eggs)!

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

How much were eggs on Epstein's island?

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

For anyone who doesn't know, a factory farm is not a farm, it's a factory. The industry calls them, "Concentrated Animal Feeding Operations" or CAFOs. They house the animals in the smallest possible space, the highest "concentration", to increase yield per square meter and reduce exercise to maximize growth. They are not designed or regulated to treat the animals humanely, they are designed to get the most profit for the least amount of investment.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This argument will never hold up in court. The same measures that ensure animals are well treated, will often prevent the spread of diseases. Those inhumane production methods they are advocating, very often lead to higher transmission rates among captive bird populations.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It doesn't matter. This is all about optics and red meat for the base. Trump can't do anything for the egg prices, so he needs to find a scapegoat. He can now point out that his administration is taking concrete actions to address the egg prices. Scratch the surface and the whole thing crumbles. But that's the case for most of the Trump cinematic universe.

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[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Prop 2 was on the ballot the first election I could vote in. We voted for better living conditions for animals, Obama to be president, and also constitutionally banned gay marriage all in one election.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Newsom has become Donald’s replacement for Trudeau. He feels deeply insecure around handsome men. He desperately doesnt want to chance it again that another man standing beside Melania making him look like the live-in dawdling grandpa in diapers they are trying to convince to go into a home.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Republicans will do anything but acknowledge Bird Flu

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Or that Trump is in the Epstein Files.

[–] cubism_pitta@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

He will sue you!!

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago
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