usernamesAreTricky

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[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 23 points 11 hours ago

I think that's the idea

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 5 points 16 hours ago

The whole thing was televised, you can have a listen for yourself if you want https://youtu.be/bDZgox580B0?t=7447

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 3 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

That's not the alternative to proving it being false, that's the alternative to it being knowingly false. You have to show all four of these things for US defamation

To prove prima facie defamation, a plaintiff must show four things: 1) a false statement purporting to be fact; 2) publication or communication of that statement to a third person; 3) fault amounting to at least negligence; and 4) damages, or some harm caused to the reputation of the person or entity who is the subject of the statement.

It's the 3rd fault one that is the knowingly false or reckless disregard for the truth

As a result, a defamation plaintiff in an American court must prove that the allegedly defamatory statement is false and that the defendant was at fault for publishing it. “Fault,” in the case of a government official or a “public figure,” means that the defendant published the defamatory statement with “actual malice” – which means that he knew it was false or at least recklessly disregarded whether it was true or false

https://www.carter-ruck.com/law-guides/defamation-and-privacy-law-in-united-states/

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 8 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (4 children)

Maybe for other countries, but this was filed in the US where that's not the case at all. You need it to not only show it's false, but that the person making a false statement knew it was false be or acted with reckless disregard of whether it was false or not

The CNN report was pretty damning and with how extensively they laid out the evidence that tied Robinson was to it, it'd likely be extremely difficult to show 1) that it was false or 2) that they acted recklessly when they were pretty through

EDIT: and to clarify the "person making a false statement knew it was false be or acted with reckless disregard of whether it was false or not" is the standard for finding fault with the person making defamation when the actual malice is used (which is the case for government officials or public figures)

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 51 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

His team was telling him to take more questions on the teleprompter and he still just stood there

(Photo from the Washington Post article)

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 63 points 19 hours ago (10 children)

That's honestly tame compared to the rest of the town hall

At the end, he made it sound like he was done and going to wrap up, said thank you and then he... just stood there for 39 minutes noding to music

Oh also he said "does anyone else want to faint too" after someone fainted

He also told people to vote on January 5th instead of election day (Nov 5th)

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 54 points 19 hours ago (7 children)

Think his team is more so afraid of making his mental decline even more obvious after his town hall yesterday. He cut if off early, said "who wants to listen to questions" and "let's listen to music" followed by an early wrapping up. Sounded like he was going to leave, but he just didn't. He stood on stage for 39 minutes of him nodding on stage to music

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/10/14/trump-music-sways-town-hall/

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 16 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Can’t wait until he’s gone next year.

To clarify for others, Glenn Youngkin is the governor of Virginia. The state's law says that governors cannot hold consecutive terms and Youngkin's term ends in 2025, so regardless of who wins next year it won't be Youngkin

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 19 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

She's certainly increased her messaging about it. For instance, she recently release her medical records and loudly asked why trump wasn't doing the same this year when he has in the past

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Then look at the KamalaHarris account quote tweeting the kamalahq account saying "hope he's ok"

https://xcancel.com/kamalaharris/status/1846049221369024700?s=46&t=ybtfi8Urdi-1ZG9fTxJdzg

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 day ago

It's also turnout game that matter at single digit percentages. If it dissuades 1% of trump supporters from turning out that matters. Or if it increases dem turnout by 1% that also matters

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Right like at least be more subtle and funny in your insults you know. Meanwhile Harris saying "hope he's okay" has so much better landing

https://xcancel.com/kamalaharris/status/1846049221369024700?s=46&t=ybtfi8Urdi-1ZG9fTxJdzg

 

TL;DR

It was unclear why Trump stayed on stage for so long and there was confusion about what was happening when he was up there.

Music played for more than 30 minutes as Trump stood on stage and occasionally made brief remarks in between songs.

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