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[–] KnilAdlez@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Huawei and TP-Link also make much better products than most American brands

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

more than a decade ago i had the perception they were cheap chinese crap, but using it made them my goto for simple routers and home networking equipment. they make simply solid routers.

[–] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

There's two types of responses in this thread. People who assume 'manipulated' means 'pushed around by a foreign (the US) government'. And people who assume 'manipulated' means 'complying with locals laws (that of China)'. I don't know wether the latter is a knee jerk response in favor of corporate sovereignty, or if it is about US extraterritoriality. After all, whenever we order Twitter to comply with Brazilian laws, the US government cites its own constitution or whatever to censor us.

[–] communism@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

It depends on your threat model, but it seems most people in the lemmyverse live in some nato-aligned (or at least not aligned with the PRC) country, so if you are concerned about surveillance from your domestic state it would be safer to use Chinese technology. Sure, the PRC government might also be spying on you but what are they gonna do with that data? You don't live there lol. Unless you're working for the FBI or something, but in that case I hope the PRC spies on you a lot.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago

I'm loving the Xiaomi Mesh wifi I bought as a gift to my parents. Zero issues. Idk about how secure they are but I trust them more than ISP stuff (even if those used to be Huawei anyway)

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"Real-vulns" christ on a cracker the human species is fucking broken you don't have to make cringe new slang for everything

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

Counterpoint: Fuck the english language.

[–] Krem@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"Real-vulns"

just rolns of the tounge that one. rural juror tier

[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

"can't be manipulated" is a stretch. The chairman/CEO and CFO both have party membership and the company is primarily held by a union, although it is unclear if the union holds the majority of class-b shares. There is party influence in Huawei through the executive and possibly the ownership despite them technically being private. The party has limited control over Huawei, but control nonetheless.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 57 points 1 week ago (2 children)

manipulated by america I think is the thing

Pretty obviously imo lol

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 week ago

that is what I meant

[–] space_comrade@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The party has limited control over Huawei, but control nonetheless.

I'd imagine that with such a large strategically important company they have more than limited control of it, which is cool and good and how it should be.

Party control is there but isn't always strong enough, even with party members, such as in the case of the Alibaba Group and Jack Ma.

[–] stupid_asshole69@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Stanning huawei: sure, I don’t know much about that equipment, it could be generally good.

Stanning tp-link: thonk

[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The last time I used a TP-link switch I needed to keep replacing it every 3 weeks because it keept breaking. Those things cannot take a beating.

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I had a TP-Link wifi router that was fucking amazing for my gigabit fiber connection.. never had a single problem in several years of running it and it cost all of $40

[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Your's was probably not sustaining repeated 6G impacts

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

Joke about a new wifi standard called 6G

[–] MizuTama@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

I might crash out if TP-Link is banned ngl.

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

I found a YouTube link in your post. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] blarth@thelemmy.club -4 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Objectively incorrect.

A number of Chinese laws state that Chinese individuals and organisations must, if asked, co-operate with intelligence work.

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 72 points 1 week ago

Notably, China is the only country in the world where you’re legally required to comply with government requests

[–] da_gay_pussy_eatah@hexbear.net 53 points 1 week ago

Note: this is true of companies based in the US

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Name a country wherein this is not true. Also the intention of the post title is clear: Free from US influence.

[–] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago

Look up edward snowden

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago

Objectively incorrect.

I do it voluntarily.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago

Nice of the Chinese government to ask, the US government certainly wouldn't

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 week ago

objectively the dumbest comment in this thread