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[–] bier@feddit.nl -1 points 6 days ago (8 children)

Yeah let's blame grondma it's absolutely her fault we had inflation and rising house prices in the last 50 years. She did it all by herself!

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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 264 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Grandma is not the problem. It’s the ~800 billionaires in the US controlling sizable portions of single-family residences through private equity, artificially controlling market prices for maximum profit per sale. Blackstone alone owns 300,000 residences.

Fun Fact: There are 16 million vacant homes nationwide. That’s 28 vacant homes for every unhoused person.

https://ips-dc.org/report-billionaire-blowback-on-housing/

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 169 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I've said this before (and caught flak for it) but I think the solution to this is to apply a heavy additional tax to vacant homes (as defined as any home that isn't occupied by a permanent resident for more than 6 months a year), and increase the tax exponentially for each residence beyond the first owned by the same company or individual.

At some point, you make it so expensive to keep unoccupied properties that they're better off letting people live there for free than continuing to let them go unoccupied. Use all of the proceeds from this tax to assist homeless people or build new dense housing developments.

"But Kobold, what about soandso with their summer home?" If you can afford a second home, you can afford to pay a bit more tax on it to benefit the public good.

"But Kobold, a lot of those homes that are vacant are run-down, or are in places nobody actually wants to live!" Doesn't matter. If they're vacant, tax them. Use the money to build dense housing in the places where people do want to live. If the place is too run-down to be occupied, the owner can tear it down and do something else with it.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 week ago (15 children)

One issue with the holiday home thing, they tend to be in quite remote places where there are very few job opportunities, because that's where people go on holiday.

[–] basiclemmon98@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 week ago (30 children)

If you can afford a second home, you can afford to pay a bit more tax on it to benefit the public good.

This part applies. It's not about directly getting a house for the homeless in this case, it's the fact that they can CLEARLY afford to pay more tax.

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[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 week ago

Neither Republicans nor Democrats would do something like this. It would be siding with the people over the stockmarket/Billionaires.

[–] Xenny@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Been shouting this for fucking ages.

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[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (3 children)

So you're saying granny would be fine with a 100% return on her investment at $36 for an offer? No? Shocked I say, shocked.

Granny is part of the problem. Not the biggest part of the pie, but still guilty.

[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Inflation is a thing that exists. Saying that someone is bad simply because they want to update the value of their property is dumb. Also, let's say granny wants to downisze. Should she sell her home for a value way below market and then be unable to buy a smaller home for herself?

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Grandma is not the problem.

You can't go blaming the institutions for the high cost of living when it is very clearly this one anonymous old person who isn't giving this other anonymous young person a sweetheart deal out of misplaced nostalgia.

Fun Fact: There are 16 million vacant homes nationwide.

Okay, but a bunch of them are in the Rust Belt, where de-industrialization eviscerated the economy and caused a mass exodus to the Gulf Coast and the Mountain West in pursuit of lower wage service sector and sales employment.

I suppose you're going to claim that the wholesale restructuring of the manufacturing economy was the fault of a handful of 90s-era Wall Street bankers and Corporate Executives, rather than millions of Boomer-era suburbanites with pocket change in their retirement accounts 40 years ago?

Likely. Fucking. Story. This is just bigotry against the 1% is what it is.

[–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Almost bit the bait lol

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[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I’ve never subscribed to this generational hatred, as true as it is that the boomers voted for this shit, on account of it’s clearly a deliberate psyop “divide and conquer” campaign. It’s as obvious as the crack epidemic or redlining.

[–] SGforce@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

It's hard when you work with a guy like I do. He's 65 and hates absolutely everybody, including his wife, but he's a coward so he's very polite. He requires so much coddling that he spends all day sucking up to everyone for whatever praise he can get then immediately turns around and complains about them. He'll complain about everyone else to the point where they get their breaks and other privileges taken away. Those privileges are also taken from him, giving him more to complain about.

It gets worse, but I'm about to go to bed and don't want to think about that.

That piece of fucking shit. Sorry about the rant. But guys like that ruin everything for everybody.

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[–] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 78 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Almost helped an old lady across the street, but then she said "I need about tree fitty" and that's when I realized that this old lady was 10 stories tall and a crustacean from the Paleozoic Era.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

She gave him a dollar

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[–] SonOfAntenora@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you were any smarter you wpuld inherit the house from your grandma and flip it yourself for big gains

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Surprise surprise, you only inherit a bunch of debt because that generation lived by "you can't take it with you".

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (45 children)

As someone who’s dealing with the estate process right now, I don’t think anyone inherits debt. It’s paid out of the estate and nobody else is responsible for those debts.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world -4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

That is arguing semantics. When people inherit things it is their understanding that it is theirs. If my grandma left me the house but owed 1 million in unpaid debt, you effectively inherit the debt. Regardless of the fact that you could opt out of inheriting it.

People often go into personal debt to retain inheritance.

On a separate note inheritance/estate tax is robbery by the federal government.

[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago

All taxation is theft.

Inheritance/estate tax is one of the more ethical ones, though.

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[–] clockwork_octopus@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Ngl, $950K for a house sounds like a steal. Can’t buy a tear-down starter home around here for that cheap…

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[–] charonn0@startrek.website 9 points 1 week ago

You shouldn't help old ladies cross the street anyway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JESczegwk0g

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