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[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 147 points 5 days ago (20 children)

bottom, as we only can see the treads not the risers (that small inset underneath a step).

[–] NielsBohron@lemmy.world 55 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

And you can see the wear on the treads. plus the handrail mount in the top left would be at a very inconvenient height if we were looking from the bottom up

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The handrail argument doesn't make any sense. It would be at the same height regardless of direction.

[–] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Also, the handrail mount is sideways if we're looking down; if we're looking up, it makes sense.

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[–] YoFrodo@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago (5 children)

It's the top of the stairs because in the top left of thr image you can see the banister support. If the mattresses were at the bottom then the angle of that support would be different

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[–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 40 points 4 days ago (15 children)

How are y'all arguing this? The banister makes it unquestionably obvious that it's at the top. There's no debate to be had here unless the banister was intentionally installed wrong just for the purpose of this meme, which would be crazy.

The mattress is at the top, y'all.

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[–] knight_alva@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago (1 children)

At the top-left corner of the image we see a support bracket for the hand rail. The orientation of this bracket only seems to make sense if we are at the bottom of the stairs looking up at the mattress. The shadow cast by the mattress also looks like the light is above and slightly closer to the camera.

If we were at the top looking down, that would imply that the hand rail brackets were sideways instead of being vertical, and that the light was mounted on the wall instead of the ceiling. I have seen stranger things in construction but it would still be strange and unlikely.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So people walk on the face of the stairs now? 😁 Look at the wear of the carpet on the stairs.

[–] knight_alva@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

Old carpet will show wear as people kick / drag against the backs of the steps. This is especially true for cheaper construction where the steps don’t have the typical overhang.

[–] Pharmacokinetics@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago

Bottom, you can see the carpet on the steps are worn out.

[–] UltraBlack@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Bottom. Carpet is really worn on the side facing us

[–] IHawkMike@lemmy.world 46 points 4 days ago (2 children)

While I'm not 100% certain it's not just confusing perspective, it does appear that the slope rise is shorter than the run, suggesting that this is from the top of the stairs.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 47 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I think the railing gives it away.

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago

Nice catch. The carpet wear corroborates this.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 54 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I have those stairs with that carpet.

💯% this is looking down to a mattress at the bottom of the stairs.

Conclusive evidence:
Looking Down

Looking Up

(Sorry I was too lazy to get the low perspective)

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Not convinced. It's a different set of stairs and a different carpet. I have had stairs with a carpet more similar to the OP that did not have a riser. See elsewhere in these comments for a photo of these stairs, now bare. In the distant past, they were carpeted.

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Bottom, look at the wear of the carpet, lots of people have walked here.

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[–] Xande@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

On the top.

On the top left you see something... The holder for the railing...

[–] Lederrucksack@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago

Can still be the bottom

[–] voytrekk@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 days ago

Bottom. The spacing/size of the stairs is the biggest clue. If we were at the bottom, it would indicate that the stairs are very tall and not very wide. As others have said, the worn carpet is also an indicator, as the carpet on the side of the stairs would not be worn. It would also likely have something sticking out like most stairs, not just flat.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago

Bottom, these stairs have a rounded lip to make them compliant with rise over run requirements in limited space.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

Bottom. Wear marks from foot traffic + if that were the top. those mattresses would tip backwards unless someone was holding them in place.

[–] Cooljimy84@lemmy.world 34 points 5 days ago (3 children)

From the wear patten on the carpet I would say bottom, but the handle to the side makes me think top !....

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[–] Jhuskindle@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

I know as someone who has rabbits and cats that the hairfall on the close to camera stairs indicates we are at the top looking down. I know hair patterns.

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 30 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Bottom, we can see dust and debris accumulated on the "run" part of the steps.

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[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

The biggest factor IMO is something no one mentioned yet: we can only see one face of each step (either the top or the wall). If a photo is taken from the bottom, we would almost always be able to see the tops of the first few steps, which isn't visible here. If a photo is taken from the top, the walls would pretty much never be visible (if they were, you could also see the photographer's feet).

Therefore, this photo is only consistent with a photo taken from the top.

It is possible that this is an extremely long flight of stairs or that the photo was taken from a deliberately deceptive angle, but if that's the case I have to say it was expertly done, because I am CERTAIN that we are looking from the top and the mattress is at the bottom.

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[–] Corigan@lemmy.zip 21 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Top the railing gives it away

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[–] Legom7@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Steps in a staircase have two measurements. Tread and rise. The proportions of what we can see make more sense as treads rather than rises. Therefore the mattress is at the bottom. Also what we can see of the handrail would make sense in either direction.

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[–] manigordo@lemy.lol 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The mattress is a metaphor, it doesn't matter where it is.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)
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[–] joshcodes@programming.dev 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Thought something was weird here. The contrast and colour is making it difficult. If you turn up shadows it changes the entire feeling, including where the obvious light source is. I wouldn't expect the dark side of the mattress unless there was a bright light directly above it.

Also the banister/handrail arm wouldn't be horizontal. Most importantly, congrats, you got me invested.

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[–] rotkehle@feddit.org 20 points 5 days ago (2 children)

top. you can see part of the handrail on the top left of the picture

[–] CountVon@sh.itjust.works 14 points 5 days ago

I think that's a heavy duty banister bracket, like this one:

white heavy duty banister bracket

Some banister brackets have a swivel type arrangement so that the bracket can be vertical underneath the handrail, no matter the angle of the handrail. Basic heavy duty brackets like this one are completely fixed in orientation, so they're installed with the vertical support at an angle to support the handrail. I suspect the bracket in the photo is at a 45ish degree angle and only looks vertical due to the perspective. The banister has been deliberately cropped out of the photo to make the perspective as confusing as possible.

Personally I think the photo was taken from the top of the stairs looking down, based on the wear in the carpet.

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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

I think it is the bottom of the top of the stairs because of the lighting to the bottom left of the mattress. That should be in shadow from the mattress if it was at the bottom of the stairs.

[–] WhyIAughta@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Not if the mattress is coming in from an outside door. That light could be daylight. In fact I believe this to be the case.

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[–] moakley@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Bottom.

  1. The risers on the stairs are not visible.

  2. The wear on the carpet goes right to the edge. That's consistent with people stepping on it, not kicking it on the way up.

  3. If it's at the top, the mattress doesn't appear to have any of its weight resting on a step. It could be so wedged in that it's being held in place, and that it was wedged that way by someone awkwardly pushing at the ends of it in a way that wouldn't seem to give them enough leverage to do that. But the obvious explanation is more likely, that it's at the bottom of the stairs.

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[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

If it were from the bottom looking up, that'd be some tall risers. So I think we're looking down.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] archonet@lemy.lol 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is gonna be our white and gold/black and blue dress, huh?

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[–] kamen@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

The carpet has wear on one side, and it doesn't make sense for the wear to be on the front of each stair, so most likely we're looking down from the top of the flight of stairs.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

top or bottom doesnt matter, whats important is that you PIVOT!

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The wear on the steps say bottom

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It’s white and gold!

All joking aside, most stairs that I know had some sort of overhang, which we don’t see in this picture, so I’ll venture to say that we are looking down. The mattress is at the bottom of the stairs.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 4 days ago

We are at the top.

Suppose the mattress is at the top. Why would someone fold the mattress into a V shape and not push the point forward?

Also, it makes sense that someone would try to fold it into a V, shove it, laugh that it is stuck and take a picture.

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