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[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 21 points 5 days ago

It depends on who "we" are.

If you're in the US, then bad news buttercup - you're already under the thumb of a ruthless insane dictator, and the economy is the last of your worries.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We are heading into a feudal system of a sort. The wealth gap is absolutly massive and the only way to end up in the upper class is to inherit. As per usual the population feels that the system is unfair, but is unable to see the real problem. Media is really pushing far right talking points, as the upper class realizes that the system is broken and a real revolution is a problem. Thats how the US ended up with a de facto monarchy. The UK is moving towards that pretty quickly too.

The good news is that Labour might make some really usefull changes. Mainly end first past the post to prevent Reform from taking over. That might very well allow left wing parties like the LibDems and Greens to win more seats and change the narrative.

[–] JustARaccoon@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What makes you think Labour are looking to change that?

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Labour had a bit more then a third of the votes, which is pretty close to were Reform is polling today. However Labour won a massive majority with those votes. If Labour wants to prevent a Reform victory they need to change the election system. It is even worse for the Tories. So long term Tory supporters will cheer them on.

[–] ballgoat@lemmy.zip 21 points 6 days ago

We are always headed for a crash. That’s the cycle of capitalism without strong regulatory mechanisms to mitigate it. I believe it is every 4-7 years that a crash has happened in the last 300 years.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Don't worry. Trump is making sure you can get a job picking crops. You'll be living in a tent. No rent, not utilities. You're welcome!

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[–] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We're headed for a revolution, of the French variety.

[–] Brickhead92@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago
[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Slapping on tariffs at a time with inflation, high consumer anxiety, and wage stagnation is going to be looked on as one of the worst moves a president has made.

[–] Colonel_Panic_@eviltoast.org 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

He is, without a doubt, the worst and second worst president in the country's entire history.

Trump: "Ah, but you have heard of me!"

[–] nick_99@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 days ago (4 children)

FAKE NEWS TDS, TRUMP IS OUR LAWD N SAVIOR, HE HAS RISEN AND REPLACED JESUS CHRIST. /s

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 25 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

And I just found out I need a new job as we are being ordered into the office after they moved it 50 miles away.

Things are not looking good. I think they will hit us with another round of redundancies after some people leave too.

[–] LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That's scary. How are you holding up?

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 11 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Scrolling through indeed right now, its not great. Maybe just give up trying to find anything I have skills for and find something unskilled?

But I think my contract states once a month in the office so if I can argue that its probably worth staying and just going through a shit commute once a month. Still not great but probably slightly better than taking a local retail job.

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[–] Colonel_Panic_@eviltoast.org 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

I've been WFH since Covid forced it, but then a year ago the promised us WFH full time was here to stay and only those that needed or wanted to be in the office could. They downsized buildings and everything. Nice!

They just told us we all had to be back in the office in a month. There isn't enough offices, not enough parking, we've blown away all the productivity metrics at home, half the company is out of state. But, uh, REASONS! We must have butts in THIS specific chair or work doesn't count.

There is literally no valid reason to force it. I think it's all about control and power. They really don't care about productivity or employee satisfaction at all, they just want to force everyone to comply. If they wanted either of those other things we've proved what works.

I hate it. It feels like the dumb "open office" fad all over again. Let's cram 200 people into a single giant open noisy room. Employees HATED it. Managers all gloated how innovative they were. Then it faded away again as they all slowly accepted that no one gets anything done in that chaotic environment.

So too with office vs home. We live in a digital age. The computer age. The internet age. Long gone is the age of work being done by shaking hands and looking at a binder of papers. It's an email, zoom call and a pdf now. Accept it.

In a weird way I'm actually looking forward to my company all going back with 0 coherent plan and not enough parking or desks and then I'll giggle as productivity and morale absolutely tanks.

It's also very likely they know a certain % will quit over it and do it on purpose to lay off without having to. The only problem is that all the most experienced and qualified people leave first.

Companies have had 5 years to accept reality, sell off the MASSIVELY expensive offices and stay fully remote where possible, but no, I think they want control over profits. They want to FEEL like they are managing instead of actually managing.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

constructive dismissial, create a situation where it becomes untenable to stay at your job, eg far away location limit office space, so people resign. seems like it has been ogoing since '23. one of my bros was in tech, they just got impatient and straight up laid people off at the mid size tech company, gotta gid rid of people who are earning 200-400k/year to record profits. he hasnt found another job yet, and i detect a distinct hint of a late 30s life crisis too.

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[–] asg101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 6 days ago (2 children)

You will own nothing, live in the company town, owe your soul to the company store, and be grateful.

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[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 22 points 6 days ago (3 children)

More of a slow collapse than a crash. Ever seen a dilapidated house on a country road, parts of the roof caving in, paint chipped, vines covering the yard? We’re working on being that house by slowly letting social and physical infrastructure in the US collapse over time.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 5 days ago

my parents house is like that, lol dad getten older and is too lazy to do anything, he keeps hoping something will magically happen.

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[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The US could poke along forever, North Korea style because our entire country is full of cowards who will just take oppression without any fight.

...the climate, tho. 😬

[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

It's in the making since 1971

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I remember during the big housing bubble in the early 2000s people were telling me "Oh you better buy now" even though down payments were insanely high and I kept thinking "The cost of housing is totally out of whack with incomes. There is no way this can keep going up." Surprise, surprise the whole thing blew up and lots of people were then left with mortgages that cost more than their homes so they were stuck. On top of that the prices were still out of whack with incomes and I still couldn't afford a house unless it was a wreck. I eventually just moved out of the state.

I was just reading how the normal "escape cities", like Miami, for people fleeing high cost areas like San Francisco and Boston/NYC are now almost as expensive. Guess people will have to go to St Louis and Des Moines.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Trump is selling us off to China, he said so today in the cabinet meeting. Everything is expensive because China owns it. Climate change is here, AMOC collapse is ongoing, we're pretty fucked tbh. So they need land and clean water for their people, we all do. Floods absolutely destroy/contaminate clean water sources like lakes. And there's been massive floods globally, especially in China.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

A crash? I'd say we're in a plane from which the pilot decided to press the "eject wings" button.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 3 points 5 days ago

Why do we even have that lever?

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Depends what you mean by crash. Before, we have crashed through small bushes and banana stands. Big showy and doing minor damage. We are about to run into that tiny little tree that the devs never made animations for.

We are not prepared for the devastation that tree will cause.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

This is so absolutely adorable.

I live in country that has plateaued financially for the last 2 decades.

You'll be fine. Really. In opposite to what you might have heard, free market capitalism in no way requires constant growth. It can adapt to plateaus or degrowth just fine.

[–] turtlesareneat@discuss.online 7 points 6 days ago

America doesn't do free market capitalism it does late stage capitalism, where profits do in fact need to be record high every quarter, even if that means people are gonna die (like 10m people becoming uninsured, plus us borrowing a bunch of money from China, so we can give more to the billionaires that own us and don't need it).

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 days ago

Which country would this be?

[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Worse, you will get used to it.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 days ago

More of a sticky slide into a chaos. From it our pain and suffering will fuel new metrics for new economic models with new crash indicators. Indicators that when applied to today would appear as an ominous array of flashing red lights.

[–] sircac@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Headed? I would say that we are a looney toon several meters in the air beyond the cliff border after traverse a mountaing through a tunnel painted in the wall with an ACME parachute... and I think that I fell short in the hyperbole

[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

No. Things will just get worse.

Your statement has probably been true since 2008. Maybe longer.

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