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[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 129 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It is interesting that Superman’s archenemy was an incredibly wealthy businessman. That seems to be the exact problem with our world today (there’s just many more of them).

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 89 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Environmentalists in comic books are nearly always deranged villains, and the ones that aren't are still weak and naïve.

The only strong environmentalist hero in Western canon is Captain Planet, and he's got sus narc vibes.

[–] ideonek@piefed.social 23 points 5 days ago (11 children)

Well, Green Arrow. But you have a point.

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[–] StaticFalconar@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

Storm and aquaman are pretty pro environmentalist without making it their only identity.

[–] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 days ago

Poison Ivy is essentially an anti-hero at this point, and she is considered fairly powerful too.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 58 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Couldn't he just take all the billionaires and fly them into the sun or smth? I don't know if that alone would fix things, but it's a start. Also literally no downsides.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 38 points 5 days ago

His nemesis is literally a billionaire and he never managed to get rid of him.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We got American Superman. We got Soviet Superman. We need Anarchist Superman.

[–] voxthefox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Captain planet gets close to that

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Don Cheadle's Captain Planet, you mean.

[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

Ah yes, In. Public he "Fights" the rich but in the Dark he is awfully chummy with a rich furry.

[–] mad_lentil@lemmy.ca 13 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I bet you if he just lightly beat up one billionaire a day that the problem would sort itself out pretty quickly.

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[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

That's why he's constantly fighting ~~Jeff bezos~~ Lex Luther l.

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[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 42 points 5 days ago (10 children)

We can solve those problems directly or indirectly by tying superman to a dynamo. With free energy even the issues with materials can be solved over time.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Just have superman round up every billionaire and political leader and drop them off on an deserted island, and the rest of us can start fixing our problems like adults.

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[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Wasn't there a small parody comic about this?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 41 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 5 days ago

One of my favorite ever smbc, and that's SAYING something! ❤️

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[–] hzl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 4 days ago

This just makes me think of Captain Planet. He knew how to solve these sorts of issues. By beating up assholes and making them stop.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Nobody understands Superman, especially most of his writers.

Dude is alien Moses created by two Jews during the Holocaust. His arch nemesis is a billionaire/the president. C'mon.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago

Kryptonite is pork, basically?

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[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago

1930s Superman would've agreed with the crowd.

[–] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There are evil "robots" you can go beat up to solve those issues, yes

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

But you said they were robots Rick!!

They're bureaucrats Morty! I don't respect em.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 24 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Bitch could literally turn back time

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

How many rounds around earth til un-inventing plastic?

[–] Velypso@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

1 turn = 1 day

Completely artificial plastic was invented in 1907 - 118 years ago.

1 year = 365 days

118 years x 365 days = 43,070 days

So 43,071 rounds should do it, and then just clonk Leo Baekeland over the head or something.

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[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Don't forget about fighting people who actually have plans to make the world a better place

Related note, excellent video essay, "Defenders of the Status quo" https://youtu.be/LpitmEnaYeU

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Only watched half of the video (because it's something I'm well aware of), so it might have gone into it, but another angle is that there's often villains that make good points and then suddenly take it in a batshit direction.

Like Thanos had a point but apparently never understood exponential growth and how reducing all life by any constant factor is just delaying the same result, even if his snap made 99% of people disappear (unless he snaps enough people that the population collapses entirely, which is what he wanted to avoid).

There's many other examples where reasonable starting points end up in unquestionably evil conclusions. Pretty sure it's just propaganda to make people who don't think much about things link those reasonable beginnings with "evil" in their minds.

Also there's characters like Bruce Wayne and Tony Stark who are billionaires but their stories always ignore the realities of what must be done in order to become a billionaire (ie underpay staff doing the actual work by billions). In Stark's case, they sidestep that by giving him super advanced AIs and automation robots, though he's still the owner of a large corporation, that he still benefits from despite offloading any of the responsibility of even running it to everyone else.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

It's addressed in the video, that these characters are always written to then go over the proverbial line.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 13 points 5 days ago

Didn't Luigi have something to say about that?

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 days ago

This is what I like about Wonder Woman. She shows up and is like. "Oh shit! There's a world war going on! Better go stop that." Meanwhile in the present super man is stopping random petty theft.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

Well, he could beat up all the CEOs and politicians...

That's why Superman is usually more proud of his work as Clark than as Superman.

[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Isn't superman pro free will

He will protect against threats but if you fuck it up your mostly on your own

[–] Corn@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Does superman think humanity chose capitalism? If Superman landed in 1600s Europe, would he think humanity chose feudalism and help put down peasant uprisings? 1700s Haiti, would he help stop slaves from stealing or enacting violence against the French?

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[–] omega_x3@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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